zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby fiero » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:13 am

am planning to upgrade the stock CDI to zeeltronic PCDI-10V for TZR 250 1kt, so i would like to know your guys review on the same.
i would like to know the power difference say on a stock engine ?
reliability of the CDI ? etc etc
thanks in advance.
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby Ndwedwe » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:34 am

Hi fiero
I own a few 20v zeels and an IGNITECH
They are both reliable and I would say this... If you are good at grasping things and fairly patient go for the IGNITECH as it is by far nicer and easier to program etc but manual is not the best and comms with these guys is slow. If you are nervous and more "left brained" go for the zeel as although the manual is no better borut the owner of zeel is a star and will help all the way, I also blew one up due to his incorrect wiring diagram and he sent me a new one free of charge.
Regards power.... I know nothing about the 10v or 1KT (aren't they less restricted to start with?) but I got 63hp on my 3MA with std motor, carbs, 105 mod to std pipes and restrictors in air box removed. Std cdi would have rounded that off to maybe 53hp but std cdi would also make my motor last twice as long. You will be un-restricting ALL your electronics and giving yourself the ability to adjust it all and as Eeknows says "expect to burn a piston of 2 to get it perfect" and I did, 3 to be exact! :D :D
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby fiero » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:46 am

Ndwedwe wrote:Hi fiero
I own a few 20v zeels and an IGNITECH
They are both reliable and I would say this... If you are good at grasping things and fairly patient go for the IGNITECH as it is by far nicer and easier to program etc but manual is not the best and comms with these guys is slow. If you are nervous and more "left brained" go for the zeel as although the manual is no better borut the owner of zeel is a star and will help all the way, I also blew one up due to his incorrect wiring diagram and he sent me a new one free of charge.
Regards power.... I know nothing about the 10v or 1KT (aren't they less restricted to start with?) but I got 63hp on my 3MA with std motor, carbs, 105 mod to std pipes and restrictors in air box removed. Std cdi would have rounded that off to maybe 53hp but std cdi would also make my motor last twice as long. You will be un-restricting ALL your electronics and giving yourself the ability to adjust it all and as Eeknows says "expect to burn a piston of 2 to get it perfect" and I did, 3 to be exact! :D :D


thanks Ndwedwe, since the TZR 1kt does not have the throttle position sensor 10v would be the correct & enough as per borut. i completely agree on the engine life :P am happy with the current CDI, but at the same time wanna know how would it feel when the so called restriction is removed :)
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby mboddy » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:30 pm

If it is for a race bike then the Mestre Racing ignition for the TZR250 and TDR250 is excellent.
It is the multiple ICGP championship winning TZ ignition with signal wires added for the tacho and power valve controller.
I have them fitted to both my race bikes. Over 1KG lighter than the stock rotor and no restriction so they love to rev to 12,000.
Jean-Paul has made up a couple more and currently has them on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330762348268?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1072

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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby fiero » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:49 am

mboddy wrote:If it is for a race bike then the Mestre Racing ignition for the TZR250 and TDR250 is excellent.
It is the multiple ICGP championship winning TZ ignition with signal wires added for the tacho and power valve controller.
I have them fitted to both my race bikes. Over 1KG lighter than the stock rotor and no restriction so they love to rev to 12,000.
Jean-Paul has made up a couple more and currently has them on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330762348268?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1072

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thanks mboddy,this is interesting but my purpose is not for race, will have a though about this as well. thanks once again
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby EEKNOWS » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:08 pm

mboddy wrote:If it is for a race bike then the Mestre Racing ignition for the TZR250 and TDR250 is excellent.
It is the multiple ICGP championship winning TZ ignition with signal wires added for the tacho and power valve controller.
I have them fitted to both my race bikes. Over 1KG lighter than the stock rotor and no restriction so they love to rev to 12,000.
Jean-Paul has made up a couple more and currently has them on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330762348268?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1072

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Mark fair dinkum those ignitions are 200Euro's over priced, You can use a toothed steel plate on a Zeel or Ignitech if you want a light rotor. Zeeltronic makes a programmable unit for the stock TZ350 rotor, as used by Ferry Brower's bikes.

Fiero you will be happy with either ignition, the fine details come into it , Ignitech needs a lap top, Zeel you can use hand held controler in the field, Igntech is cheaper , Zeel comes pre-programmed.
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby mboddy » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:38 pm

I have no regrets about how much I paid for them.
They work well and do what I want.
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby fiero » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:19 am

PCDI-10V 189,60euro
handheld programmer 57,00euro
PC-USB programmer 47,00euro
ZeelProg CD 1,20euro
shipping with TNT 28,00euro

not sure of the ignitech price as am not sure of the correct model number for the TZR, any pointers ?
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby TZR-V4 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:56 am

fiero wrote:handheld programmer 57,00euro
PC-USB programmer 47,00euro

I think it should be handhelp OR PC-USB programmer. both are not needed.
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Re: zeeltronic for TZR 250 1kt

Postby fiero » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:09 pm

TRUE either one will do
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