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My unexpected 4DL project
« on: July 26, 2015, 09:50:14 PM »
although the photos don't show it very well the bike is rather tired paint wise and the tank photo only shows 1 split in the paint but its covered in them and with a low compression engine so what should have been a quick fettle and ride is now going to be a bit of a project.

It won't be a full nut and bolt rebuild as I don't have the facility's time or funds for that but I'll do the best I can.

Any advise regarding taking a job like this on would be most welcome, the best place for spare parts, vinyl sets etc.

plus what model do I have I assume its mk1 4dl frame number BL4DL MODEL TZR 125 R DECL/D MANUF 1993

also should the frame be black or should it be striped and polished?
or should I keep it black and make it a SP lookalike using the right SP vinyl's?

 














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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2015, 09:18:38 PM »
Hi Nic,
Looks good enough to use for the rest of the summer.

Loads of folks use Webbs of Lincoln for Yam parts. Fowlers are good and fast.
For decals there are loads of ideas here, and cheap:
http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/Yamaha__Graphics_Kits.html
or the image works:
http://www.bike-stickers.com/homepage.htm

Some of the 125 SP stickers are not available from Yam. There was an article on one in last months practical sports bike mag. Cheers Scotty

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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2015, 11:02:47 PM »
thanks for the info Scotty

didn't think anyone was going to give any advice
I would agree with using it if it was running sadly it doesn't start and as mentioned has low compression and leaks petrol the nipper that had it put a new set of rings in but it didn't up the compression so looks like the engine is a bit knackered anyway.
hence the reason for doing it up and asking for some advice as to the best way to go with it.
I fond these on eBay hence the thought of going down the SP look alike route
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271936392535?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
but I will check out your suggestions and see if anything floats by boat

oh and I'm Stephen/Steve
I just use nic fan as I have used it on different sites and can't be assed with making up new names
you could check out my VFR750 FR in different bikes to see were the nic comes from ;)
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 12:17:55 AM »
Steve,
It looks like that ebay add is by the same guy who made the ones for the bike I am talking about in the mag. The green seat number boards are the rare pieces. 3M vinyl is good stuff so looks like a decent price. If the 125 is like the 250 then there are two shades of white, early ones were silky white later went bluer, both pearl.
This paint is easy to use and they can do cans if you don't have a compressor:
http://www.specialistpaints.com/products/pearl-canz

Why not strip the engine and get that sorted first. Scored cylinder maybe? leaking could be the float operated valve in the carb or perished piping/ gaskets etc.
Painting could come later on once it is nearly road worthy.
Cheers Scotty
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 10:08:40 AM »
The guy who does the SP decal kit is on here he also does the series 1 red decal kits too. His name is Graham Corfield,his user name on here is Corf.
 Hard to come by spare parts can normally be easily found on Ebay Germany
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2015, 02:22:38 PM »
Thanks Steve & Mick
Really appreciate the information
But and I apologise for being a bit thick
But how do you know what you're ordering
When it's in German  ?:-|
Also are there anything like the
Haynes manuals that can be brought
Or viewed anywhere?
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2015, 06:27:51 PM »
Steve,
Try the google translate app on a smart phone. The new version you can just hold the camera over the foreign text and it translates it straight onto the screen. Otherwise cut and paste into an online translator. Takes longer but easy enough.

The above may work with a jap manual also. Cheers Scotty

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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2015, 09:09:16 PM »
ah cheers Steve
technology I love it (when it works) but often don't understand it
I would really like to comprehend how a needle running around a grove over varying peeks and troughs on a record can distinguish between vocals and hundreds of different instruments, but I digress and thanks again ill look into this and I've bookmarked the other suggestions should help loads.   
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2015, 10:00:48 PM »
that's cool just had a look at the German eBay could be of great use thanks the heads up again Mick & Steve
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2015, 05:33:50 PM »
There are no workshop manuals for the 4DL,only a owners manual and microfiche.
If I need any engine settings I refer to the earlier 2RK models workshop manual.

http://www.tzr125.co.uk/free-document-database.php
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2015, 09:20:22 PM »
oh right I still have my old Haynes manual from my old 1990s tzr 125
nearly thrown it out many times.

does anyone know whether other models use the same 2t oil bottle as the 4dl as I need one   
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2015, 09:16:15 PM »
Tzr 250 3ma.
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2015, 09:19:56 PM »
Bolt on  ;)

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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2015, 11:34:33 PM »
thanks guys now just need to track one down
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2015, 11:39:46 PM »
quickie question are all 4dl 2T oil tanks the same ie R RR SP
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