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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2015, 07:48:32 PM »
well made a start removing the plastics the screen looks a funny shape in the photos but looks ok once off so I assume the mounting bracket is a bit out of shape. I've included photos of the main bits barrel ID stickers etc do you think it all goes together ie same model. obviously the single seat unit is not original so not sure if I should stick with it or replace it with the correct seat unit.
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2015, 07:57:03 PM »
narrowed down how I want it to look like down to these two just got to decide which one  ?:-|




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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2015, 09:02:01 PM »
oh forgot it has a plastic petrol tank does this seem right for this bike?
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2015, 08:13:56 AM »
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oh forgot it has a plastic petrol tank does this seem right for this bike?
Yes it's ok
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2015, 01:04:14 PM »
looks like you have a sp spannie but not the can ,very nice

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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2015, 11:48:40 PM »
looks like you have a sp spannie but not the can ,very nice
not to sure about that the forks don't have any adjusters but I get lost trying to work out which model is which  ?:-|
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2015, 09:32:57 PM »
well I've found out why the paint had split on the tank after getting through 3-4 layers of paint I've come to a yellow layer that I can scrape off with a finger nail. this is going to be a long job sanding this lot down  :'(
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2015, 09:49:16 PM »
They are really nice bikes 8)
Had one sadly soled it and now truly regret that :'(

Still watching the local online markets to see if one pups up.

Perhaps this site helps,
http://www.rrr.de/~franky/site/moppel/yamaha_tzr125/yamaha_tzr125_mods_d.html
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 11:02:11 PM »
thanks for the link Louis
was that your actual bike (very nice condition)

I think I'm leaning towards the Petronas paint scheme as the SP scheme looks a little dated, although the paint scheme on your photo does look fresher than the SP (just my opinion) but no hurry looks like I'm going to be rubbing down for ages before making the final decision.
going to take the engine out tomorrow, yes I know I'm supposed to be rubbing the fairings down but its got to come out sometime and it will give me something to do when the weathers bad  ;) 
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2015, 08:24:36 PM »
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was that your actual bike (very nice condition)
Yes, that was my bike :'(
http://tzr250.webs.com/tzr1254dl.htm (old site off mine)

It is really a nice one, and it drives almost the same as a 3MA.
Here a small movie off me, trying to get max speed out off it ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o6bcDUmI7k
(with my length and weight not ideally)
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2015, 10:43:19 PM »
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was that your actual bike (very nice condition)
Yes, that was my bike :'(
http://tzr250.webs.com/tzr1254dl.htm (old site off mine)

It is really a nice one, and it drives almost the same as a 3MA.
Here a small movie off me, trying to get max speed out off it ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o6bcDUmI7k
(with my length and weight not ideally)

150kph 93mph not to shabby with the fairing lowers off
at 14st  :-[  I'd be ok with that  ;D

below a few pic's of todays work on the tank
I have no idea what the gooey yellow crap some (ladies bits) put on it.
don't have a fit but I had to use a heat gun and paint scraper to get it off
I just hope its not all over the fairings as well as I don't think they would take the heat like the tank did.
engine coming out tomorrow now.








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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2015, 12:22:45 AM »
all the oil tanks are the same in the 4DL series. SAme as in 3MA. Water tank as well.
This is not the SP exhaust, I think its an aftemakert. The SP one has a really long stinger. But it might be as good.
Your cylinder is the right one with the P marking next to 3MB.

If you want to upgrade the looks you can also install the 4DL banana swingarm. Easy to find on in German ebay.

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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2015, 12:40:14 AM »
thanks Fotis makes things easier
if your still around maybe you can help with this as well regarding the petrol tank behind the front fuel filter thing is what looks like a nut with a take off for a pipe on the parts list they call it an (Indicator, Choke) well mine had the remnants of a rubber washer between it and the tank but its perished have tried to unscrew it with no joy it seems to be connected to a pipe that runs up through the tank so does it undo or not as I need to replace the rubber washer
 
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2015, 07:08:35 PM »
right engine is out but I have a few problems
1: I can't remove the rear sub frame top 2 bolts are fine but the lower one is stuck fast any ideas how to free it.

2: the front engine mount is broken I've brought a replacement but its different the broken one is longer with 2 rubber bushes going up to a bracket that bolts to the engine whereas the replacement is shorter with the bracket on the mount doing away with the rubber bushes will it be ok to fit this bracket or do I need the same as the broken one.
 
3: I'm thinking I've so much to do with the rest of the bike that I may send the engine of to be rebuilt do I have to take anything off it first or send it as a whole unit.

4: I'm now down to a rolling chassis what's the best way to take it apart i.e. front wheel forks first or rear wheel and swing arm.

I'll post some photos after I've had some tea and a bath to show how far I've got
oh and the rear engine mount was broken as well and the forks are leaking as well good job it wasn't a runner or I could have been riding it like that   :o
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Re: My unexpected 4DL project
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2015, 09:53:26 PM »
Water bottle under the tank must be wrong
























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