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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #420 on: August 13, 2018, 11:07:52 PM »
Hello,

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Hi Louis sorry to hijack your thread again
Don't worry, you give it a nice boost :)

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I have at last changed the front sprocket from 16 to 17 teeth and the result wasn't quite what I was expecting. on the plus side it pulls better and for longer in each gear bar 6th and that's where the negative comes in as it wont reach full revs in 6th meaning the top speed is still about the same.
This is a part off setting up your bike, to your own feeling ;)
I have updated my site with a geardata and with three data fills for the TZR125's
http://www.tzr3ma.com/3ma-manual-s.html
Yours is the TZR125R (4DL) and you will be surprised that the stock setting for a 4DL(R) is 18/47 ;)
So in theory your 16/47 is about a dirt track setup, nice and quick shifting through the gears ^-^
(You can play with the gear setup, to see where your top speed lies)

Now it all depends on weight and length and power.

18/47 is way to long for me, perhaps a light Italian (50kg) can reach top speed and top rpm but not me with a 102KG and 2meter
17/47 I'm currently driving and gives a +150KMH (depends on wind direction, flat out on tank as good as I can)
16/47 I haven't tried

You can try differed rear sprockets, roughly 1 teeth at frond is 3 at the back
So 16/45 could be a option, but I don't know if they make them.

But if you like the acceleration and not the top speed, then 16/47 is not bad ;)
« Last Edit: August 13, 2018, 11:21:44 PM by Louis »
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #421 on: August 28, 2018, 05:54:36 PM »
The Klass-gp challenge opens a 125 sport production competition for 2019. (three or four races)
My sons want us to go up the TZR 125 Bellegarda to participate.
I will use part of your work and develop mine because we will face the Aprilia RS and Gilera Mito. Regulation is full everywhere, including slick tire  ;)

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #422 on: August 29, 2018, 10:00:25 AM »
That sounds like a good project Toop! Are you going to show us how you get on?

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #423 on: August 29, 2018, 12:22:47 PM »
We will look at this together  ;)

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #424 on: August 29, 2018, 12:26:40 PM »
Hello Toop,

That will be a challenge agents full tuned RS's and mito's but doable ;)
I have my road going bike still on the dyno, want to test the difference between.
A Well setup Zeel curve agents the stock CDI with 4 till 6 degrees more advange.
I'm getting the feeling that difference is very small.

Also have the last setup for the trackbike ready would be interesting to see what brings
http://www.tzr3ma.com/ngk-plug-setup.html

But the problem now is time....
I'm currently on a low profile, while I'm changing my workshop. This is a huge project as I have less space.
Need to drag everything to one corner change what I want and put every thing back.



Hope in the end I will have more space, and it will be better looking. 8) (Certainly not the case now)
Have made my first construction 10 years ago and I really needed to update it for the next 10 years ;)
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #425 on: September 14, 2018, 11:49:39 PM »
Its going slowly, but it starts to look all right :) (It kept mey busy for a wile)
Still far from ready...



A bid more here: http://www.tzr3ma.com/workshop-2.0.html

Next step will be connecting the electrical for the machines.(mill, lathe, grinder, etc)
Then my new electrical work place, for future development
etc etc.

Will get there in the end 8)
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #426 on: September 15, 2018, 12:41:11 AM »
You are a big sick man, I love  ;D

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #427 on: September 15, 2018, 10:14:54 AM »
WOW! Is that a Yamaha museum?? ;D ;D ;D

Compliments Louis! (-P)

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #428 on: September 16, 2018, 07:17:22 PM »
I'm with TOOP !!!!
Crazy things we do...

I'm updating my workshop too but i'll not end like yours Louis ;)
Olivier.
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #429 on: September 16, 2018, 10:51:15 PM »
Thanks guys ^-^

I need to make some plates with magnets to place in front off the wide openings (so that is out off site too)
Currently working on connecting everything ::)

When that is done, I'm back to my projects again ;)
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #430 on: September 17, 2018, 03:21:55 AM »
haha , I love the bikes on the bench ;D No quick getaways though! Nice having a proper workshop (-P)

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #431 on: September 29, 2018, 10:38:09 PM »
Have connected everything now and all is working fine
Some small thinks needs to be done but I can start working in my workshop again ;D


So slowly planning the 2019 ideas for this bike.
1) To reach a solid 30HP at the back wheel. (haven't dyno the last change so could be that I'm already there but it needs to be solid not just one run ;))
2) To get this bike finally ready so it can be used.

Also need to learn to focus myself on one ore two projects only, otherwise nothing gets ready. (as you can see ::) )

So my target for next year will be this bike and my dyno.

Planning to upgrade my dyno this winter lets say October till march.
Get this bike ready from March till spring

But I'm still open fore great ideas to get it over a 30HP ;D
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #432 on: October 01, 2018, 01:22:31 PM »
Welcome back! ;) Nice to see everything is now functional and ready to develop your bikes! (-P)

Let's head for 30+ HPs.... 8)
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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #433 on: October 01, 2018, 02:41:37 PM »
I'd be tempted to bump the compression up a bit more, see what happens (especially now you can fine tune the ignition curve)... workshop looks brilliant! (won't be that organised for long though I bet :P)

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Re: TZR125 4DL TRACK BIKE
« Reply #434 on: October 02, 2018, 06:48:07 PM »
Thanks guys  :)

I'll be focusing myself on the engine/bike when the dyno is ready.
Want to keep myself locked on one project at the time, otherwise it will not come ready at all. (as you can see)

Have ordered tubes and bearings to get a start, ones I have something to show you will open a topic on here to discuss the progress.
Have been reading a lot about this, it will be interesting.

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