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saltysealion

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Transmission bearing replacement
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:45:46 PM »
Hi,

Attempting to replace the bearing on the transmission


It’s the shorter stack.

It seems that the bearing is pressed in from the left as there are gears on the right side of it.


Has anyone here replaced it? Any tips?

I’ve tried using a bearing puller but it’s such a tight fit

Banged it using wood to hold around the bearing but have only managed to make the bearing more noisy.

I can see the outer race starting to be torn off but the inner stands still

Help!

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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2018, 03:54:27 PM »
Heat the inner ring for disassembly and to reassemble the new.

it is sometimes difficult for disassembly, but since the bearing is dead I cut it to leave only the inner ring that falls alone when it is sufficiently heated  ;)

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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2018, 06:59:16 PM »
I managed to pull it off. The bearing puller was stressed to its limits but managed to hold together.

Do I just heat the inner race to press it in?

I noticed at the end of the rod, there is a cap I pushed it in and got it out... planning on using some gasket to glue it back on the end, I looks like its job is to stop the oil and make it come out of the bleed holes, is it critical that it seals? I dont see any o rings or anything.


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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2018, 10:11:44 PM »
Put the shaft in the freezer for a good hr and then put the bearing in the oven for 15min at 100-150c(not sure what that is in F).It'll just slip on.
Twitchy left hand rider ;-)


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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2018, 09:22:32 AM »
130°-160° Celsius

130° if the shaft in the freezer (one night)
more than 160-170° if not freez the shaft
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 09:27:29 AM by Toop »

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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 03:11:50 AM »
My oven is shot so I can't accurately set the temp... also makes cooking hard :)

What temp am I aiming for in terms of the bearing itself, I can shoot it with a heat sensor

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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2018, 01:57:15 PM »
This is informative: http://www.ntnglobal.com/en/products/instruction/mounting/index.html

So I cooled the rod down to -10c and the rod to 100c.

It didn't go so well, before the interference part, it already snagged on something. Perhaps the hot/cool was conflicting?

I used a hammer and the old bearing with a pipe to tap it into the tight part. It didn't take much force but not something that can be applied by fingers.

From here, I just pressed it together using a threading rod.

I now have a new bearing on the shaft. I can't say I'm very very impressed with the near bearing, it doesn't spin PERFECTLY smooth but it is much better than the old one.

Pictures to follow.....

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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2018, 05:20:13 PM »
Pictures of the presss and end result

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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2018, 08:24:55 AM »
One of the biggest difference is a shim I installed as part of the reassembly

There was a 0.5mm diffference between the new and the old. Could that be from wear and tear?


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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2018, 10:37:23 AM »
Last one on transmission guys...

Seeking help. Where does this clip (41) go?
It’s too large to sit around anything..


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Re: Transmission bearing replacement
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2018, 11:54:11 AM »
Item 40 is an alternative oil seal (without a retaining shoulder like the original Item 35 oil seal). Item 41 is the circlip which retains the alternative seal, because the seal has no integral retaining shoulder (the circlip should fit in the groove intended for the shoulder of the Item 35 seal). Therefore, you can use Item 35 or you can use Items 40 & 41 together instead.

In theory, you can replace the alternative seal without splitting the engine cases; Just remove the circlip, pull the old seal out (e.g. by using self-tapping screws), push the new seal in and then refit the circlip. To replace the original type seal (Item 35), the engine cases must be split because the integral shoulder prevents the seal from being pulled out.

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James