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bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 20 2009,23:11 Hi all, posting up at last. Been lurking for a while, trying to suss out what model 3xv to get. Found a standard 1991 SP, I think! Its been in the country a year or so, I'm led to believe. The present owner says he bought it from the importer, but never bothered to register it. Anybody know what paperwork I need from the seller to do this. I have been told that an important one is some kind of import tax form, otherwise I could be liable if I did register it. Have tried DVLA website, but it doesn't seem to explain fully,(unless I'm missing something!) Would like to know fully before commiting to buying, ie, form 'a' for this, form 'b' for that, etc Cheers Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,02:10 Hi Bobbyboy & welcome.   The best advice I could give you is to 'phone Fastline Superbikes in Preston, Lancs. They've been importing Jap only models for years, so should be able to advise on the paper work needed. There 'phone number is :-  01772 902600 .  Good luck, hope there's not too much hassle involved. Let us know how you get on please.                              Bye for now, Wullie.    -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

Classicjap Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,11:58 Make sure you have proof front the seller that import tax has been paid on it. If he can't prove it then you will have to pay the import tax before you will be able to register it. You can get the forms from HM Customs and Revenue. After that it is a case of getting it MOTd on the chassis number and filling in the forms at the DVLA. PS - I am selling a 3xv (R model) if you are interested Back to top

TZR_BOTT Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,14:15 Quote (Classicjap @ Feb. 21 2009,09:58) PS - I am selling a 3xv (R model) if you are interested I think the yellow one you just sold is back up for sale again too?? can't remember which forum I saw it on now though   Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,15:41 Quote (TZR_BOTT @ Feb. 21 2009,12:15) Quote (Classicjap @ Feb. 21 2009,09:58) PS - I am selling a 3xv (R model) if you are interested I think the yellow one you just sold is back up for sale again too?? can't remember which forum I saw it on now though   Its on this forum, under 'For sale and Wanted' Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,15:44 PM'd you, Classicjap Back to top

Twosted Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: May 2007 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,18:00 Hi bobbyboy and welcome to the forum. Is the 3XV SP you're looking at the one that was on ebay recently? If it is, I've seen it in the flesh at Stafford last year and it looks a good'un. To get the bike registered you will need from the seller: The Customs and Excise 386 form to prove that all taxes have been paid on entry to the UK from outside of Europe. Some proof of age, preferably from the country of origin. Then it's up to you to get it insured and M.O.T'd. Then apply to the DVLA for a registration pack which will include the V55 registration form and some good information about registering. Once completed, take all this along to your local DVLA office with the first registration and road tax fee to register the bike. They may well want to view the bike to check all the numbers match. Hey presto..Easy really when you know how! Have a look here for more detail. http://www.neil.nu/cgi-bin....5;t=571 Hope this helps. Ed. Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,20:07 Damn . Finger trouble again, sorry !! -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,20:14 Quote (Twosted @ Feb. 21 2009,16:00) Is the 3XV SP you're looking at the one that was on ebay recently? If it is, I've seen it in the flesh at Stafford last year and it looks a good'un. If it was the 3XV2 SP on e-bay, how much did it skin you, if you don't mind me asking. Did you get any change from 5 grand ??   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,22:17 Quote (Twosted @ Feb. 21 2009,16:00) Hi bobbyboy and welcome to the forum. Is the 3XV SP you're looking at the one that was on ebay recently? If it is, I've seen it in the flesh at Stafford last year and it looks a good'un. To get the bike registered you will need from the seller: The Customs and Excise 386 form to prove that all taxes have been paid on entry to the UK from outside of Europe. Some proof of age, preferably from the country of origin. Then it's up to you to get it insured and M.O.T'd. Then apply to the DVLA for a registration pack which will include the V55 registration form and some good information about registering. Once completed, take all this along to your local DVLA office with the first registration and road tax fee to register the bike. They may well want to view the bike to check all the numbers match. Hey presto..Easy really when you know how! Have a look here for more detail. http://www.neil.nu/cgi-bin....5;t=571 Hope this helps. Ed. Yes Ed, it is the one off ebay, with the rather inflated price! Thanks for the registration help, exactly what I wanted. Quote If it was the 3XV2 SP on e-bay, how much did it skin you, if you don't mind me asking. Did you get any change from 5 grand ?? Haven't bought it yet He's dropped it down a grand, but still feel its a bit salty. Really unsure what to do, its a big chunk of money for a 250, but really nice ones seem few and far between. If I hang on and try and find a cheaper one, will I eventually be priced out of being able to afford one at all? Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,23:08 If the stated mileage is correct, and unless you can be sure it's been stored at all times in absolutley ideal conditions and started regularly, warmed up properly etc., since new, I'd personally be factoring in at least a grand or so for the motor work it's likely to need within the year. And that's before you've thought about the work and parts needed to de-restrict it. This is assuming you actually want to use it of course. If it's gonna be more of an ornament than that's less of an issue and it's simply 'worth' whatever you or anyone else is prepared to pay to put it on the mantlepeice.   I wouldn't pay anything like that kind of money for an almost 20 year old 250 myself though... And, on the road at least, the 'lower spec' (and much cheaper) R/RS models are just as good a bike (arguably better in the real world in fact IMO). So that might be worth keeping in mind too   Horses for course of course. If you want it, can pay for it without hardship/earache - and the possible/probable remedial work it'll need to 'de-storage' it and make it go like it should - then cough it up and enjoy. Any decent 3XV is a phenomenal bike in my book, so I'd highly recommend that you bouught one. Whether you should pay that kind of money for the privilege is a question only you can answer... Whatever you decide, good luck Wb -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 21 2009,23:56 Buying the cleanest, most original one I could find has been the top of the list, not necessarily an SP. This one took my eye because of its originality and mileage. But I still dont think its worth double an R model. The more I ponder, the less I want this particular one To be honest, I realised after my first posting, that it was the one at Stafford in October. Saw it on the friday before opening to the public for the weekend, and when I asked the seller how much, £4250, I was speechless, thinking that £3250 would have been closer to ideal. So chose to ignore it. Now finding the seller has added a further premium on top has soured it a bit. All my bikes that I have are ridden, serviced and cosseted by me. Have shown a few on Strokerboys 'Diff'rent Strokers' club stand. I try to find a balance of maintaining original condition for the 'mantlepiece' effect, with riding like a t*t when I can get some free time away from the ankle biters! Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,00:19 I bought a low mileage near mint '91 SP last summer for £2500. And I had to have a bloody long lie down after paying that much for one I can tell you... Like I said though, ultimately it's 'worth' what someone will pay for it. And in the current market it's likely someone else will pay close to what he wants for it if you won't. Bone stock 3XVs are pretty stifled though really, so are probably not the best of the 250s if you want to keep it stock looking and get your Sunday afternoon jollies at the same time. You would at least need to get some decent pipes on it if you wanted it to even think about working properly. And a Sugo kit CDI etc. too really if you didn't want to get duffed up by rattly old RGVs -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,00:43 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 21 2009,22:19) I bought a low mileage near mint '91 SP last summer for £2500. And I had to have a bloody long lie down after paying that much for one I can tell you... Like I said though, ultimately it's 'worth' what someone will pay for it. And in the current market it's likely someone else will pay close to what he wants for it if you won't. Bone stock 3XVs are pretty stifled though really, so are probably not the best of the 250s if you want to keep it stock looking and get your Sunday afternoon jollies at the same time. You would at least need to get some decent pipes on it if you wanted it to even think about working properly. And a Sugo kit CDI etc. too really if you didn't want to get duffed up by rattly old RGVs You dont want to sell that overpriced SP do you What do you mean 'rattly old rgv's, cheek! I've got two!! But you are right, they do rattle a bit, although I try to imagine they have dry clutches to make me feel better Back to top

Twosted Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: May 2007 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,16:08 I think £4,250 to £4,000 is about right for this particular bike. It is VERY original and when cleaned up will probably be the best standard 3XV SP in the country.....If thats what you want.... I know of a couple of SP's that have changed hands for that sort of money which have been nowhere near ebay or the classifieds. If you look what Fastline M/C's are asking for fresh imports it makes this bike look cheap. Obviously wb has a preferance for riding and modifying his bikes, that's great. He's a gold mine of information,but... Some people are happy to own and just trundle about on and show theirs.   You can have a good chuckle on a healthy bone stock 3XV without all the pipes, ignition, tuning wizardry. I've ridden, track day'd my stock 3XV for 12 years now and have enjoyed every minute. .......45rwhp is juusst enough power to have some fun.   Back to top

Yuri Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,16:56 my vj23 do not rattle Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,20:24 I think sometimes my approach to these issues is a bit misunderstood. What folks choose to do or not do with their bikes is none of my business, but that doesn't mean that I won't happily offer my opinion on such matters of course. . When it comes to the idea of what these bikes are 'worth' though I tend to think that things have just become a bit silly really. I genuinely believe that no nearly twenty year old mass produced road bike bike is objectively worth the kind of money that we have been discussing here. And my position here is hardly driven by sour grapes or anything like that as I own 2 very nice early SPs and a couple of Rs, and am not looking to buy another 3XV at all, so on a personal level I can only benefit from the current 'bubble' in the price of such bikes. The fact is though that I would rather these bikes were sold in a more 'honest' and realistic marketplace so that they were more easily available to genuine entusiasts who might be working to a lower budget, and weren't quite quickly becoming pampered collectors items during this media and marketing induced re-found fad for early 90s stokers. There's just no way one earth, for example, that that lashed-up 93 SP from Fastline featured in PB the other week was actually worth anything like £6500, but publishing those kind of fantasy prices, normalises them and inflates the market in pretty much the same way that property shows in recent years fuelled the property bubble by normalising ever-inflating and totally unrealistic prices - and we all know what happened there... My second point was really just that if you want a very nice 250 stroker that you want to keep in original condition and that isn't frustratingly power capped, then you'd be better off with an RGV, Priller RS or KR1s or whatever, because that way you can keep it entirely stock and also have decent power.  And you can still pick those up for sensible money too - especially the Priller, which are currently without doubt the bargain 250 stroker out there, and if I was in the market for such a bike would be what I would be looking at I think. But, you know, whatever...   -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,21:51 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 21 2009,21:08) ... And, on the road at least, the 'lower spec' (and much cheaper) R/RS models are just as good a bike (arguably better in the real world in fact IMO). So that might be worth keeping in mind too   Warwick, me old ... , you've cheered me up no end with that comment.     I'm starting to get frustrated with the lack of progress on my engine & chassis overhaul. My cranks been at S.E.P for nigh on six weeks now !!    They're "having difficulty sourcing an inner web" !! I'm phoning them ( again !! ) tomorrow. Hopefully, I get some good news, but I won't hold my breath.    I'm also hoping my rear shocks overhaul is finished, & I can collect it tomorrow afternoon, so I can finish putting the chassis together this week. -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 22 2009,23:05 Sorry to hear that, Wullie. I've been meaning to ask how the crank was coming on as I was a bit surprised, you'll remember, about how gung ho they were about their ability to source the right centre for the R/RS crank. The TZ one (that I presume they can use for SP cranks as it looks idenitcal to me) is pretty different in shape and, I presume, weight than the R/RS jobbie, so I was wondering if it would be possible to match up a TZ centre with R/RS outer webs. I hope they can come up trumps for you of course, but if they can't, I wonder if it'd be possible for you/them to source SP outer webs to match with a TZ inner and have yourself, effectively, a new SP crank made up? (assuming the compatibilty betweeen the TZ inner and the R/RS outer webs is the problem of course) Good luck with it in any case. Who did you send the shock to in the end by the way? -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

Twosted Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: May 2007 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,00:09 It's clear that twenty year old bikes are worth that kind of money...... Has anybody noticed the price of Yamaha LC's lately? Or come to think of it aircooled RD's and even early YPVS's. Why should the best TZR that Yamaha made be exempt the same sort of price rises? Good 3XV's go for decent money because there aint many about and the demand for them is quite high. I value good honest std 3XV's at £2,000-£2,500. Sp's £3,500- £4,000. Not because as a bike they perform any better than the opposition. But because they were never imported in great numbers and they're rare and in demand. There's lots more RGV's, KR1's and Aprillia's about so the price is going to be less. I'm afraid they're not sports bikes any more. They've fallen into the collectors bikes category and values will reflect this. Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,00:48 That's pretty much my point really, Eddie. That they are subjectively 'worth' whatever people/the market will pay for them, but that's not any kind of objective value of the motorcycle itself.  Kind of like Ronaldino is 'worth' 60 grand a week or whatever to his employers, but it's not an objective valuation of the real value of his labour - he's only kicking a ball about after all - objectively a doctor, nurse, teacher or binman is worth a lot more... Whatever, though, I'll be hanging onto mine, riding them hard but cherishing them, but I won't be buying any more.  If I was looking to spend 4 or 5 grand on a bike though, I'd be wanting an objectively better bike than a 3XV I have to say - and I'd be very wary of buying some low mileage 'pretty bike' with a probably dried out bottom end - which is kind of the point I was originally trying to make to Bobbyboy... C'mon fella's, we used to talk about getting the most out of our bikes, increasingly the talk seems to be about how much we can get for them. And that, to me, is just a bit sad really   -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,13:21 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 22 2009,21:05) Who did you send the shock to in the end by the way? Delivered it personally to Grant Motorcycles, at Knockhill circuit, 2 weeks ago. They're K-Tech. service agents. They have a big low-rider artic. box trailer they do the suspension overhauls in. I 'phoned them this morning, my rear shock should be ready this week.    I'll post up what it cost when I know. I also 'phoned S.E.P. too this morning, there's been no further progress with the inner web needed.       I'm starting to think I should have bought a new crank assembly. I would have had one from Japan by now !! -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,13:39 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 22 2009,22:48) ... and I'd be very wary of buying some low mileage 'pretty bike' with a probably dried out bottom end ... Another Warwick Pearl of Wisdom that sums my bike up perfectly !! -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,14:25 Sorry, Wullie. Wasn't meaning to apply the salt... Its just always been a personal concern of mine with minty looking, low mileage older strokers, and I've heard about quite a few such cases recently so felt it was worth posting. I'm gonna try to keep quite about it all now though 'cos all I seem to succeed in is winding people up -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,18:23 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 23 2009,12:25) Sorry, Wullie. Wasn't meaning to apply the salt... Its just always been a personal concern of mine with minty looking, low mileage older strokers, and I've heard about quite a few such cases recently so felt it was worth posting. I'm gonna try to keep quite about it all now though 'cos all I seem to succeed in is winding people up Don't worry about it Warwick,     As usual, your comments are spot on !!   Anyone out there thinking of buying ANY old stroker needs to be very aware that they can swallow up a BIG chunk of money to get them in top working order !!     Personnally, I'd budgeted for SOME work needing done to mine, but NOT for what's actually needed doing !!     Oh well, you live & learn !     At least she will ( hopefully ) feel like a new bike, when eventually put back together & running.   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

Malc Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: Feb. 2009 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,18:34 Quote (wullie3XV9 @ Feb. 23 2009,16:23) Personnally, I'd budgeted for SOME work needing done to mine, but NOT for what's actually needed doing !!     Oh well, you live & learn !     At least she will ( hopefully ) feel like a new bike, when eventually put back together & running.   LOL! Isn't that always the way? My '94 RVF400 was bought as a rescue-pup (or pile of s***e if you prefer) and the budget for restoring that went out the window during week one! Now, I'm looking at it thinking there is collateral there to keep the 3XV sweet!   Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,18:45 Quote (Malc @ Feb. 23 2009,16:34) My '94 RVF400 was bought as a rescue-pup (or pile of s***e if you prefer) and the budget for restoring that went out the window during week one! I'm not surprised, with the price of HONDA spares !!   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,23:02 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 22 2009,22:48) I'd be very wary of buying some low mileage 'pretty bike' with a probably dried out bottom end - which is kind of the point I was originally trying to make to Bobbyboy... Warwickb, you highlight one of my biggest concerns with the motor. Plan on going to have a look wednesday, so would appreciate any further advice (apart from not paying over £2000   ) Any way I can 'test' the engine for a dry bottom end? Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,23:16 The main problem with my motor was a build up of condensation, or some water ingress, had washed off the oil around the L/H big-end bearing needles & big-end journal, starting corrosion pitting on some of the needles & the journal !!   All three main crank seals were virtually worn out too !! See my thread titled " My RS crank is dead !!", started back in December '08, for some photos. -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 23 2009,23:42 Quote (bobbyboy @ Feb. 23 2009,21:02) Warwickb, you highlight one of my biggest concerns with the motor. Plan on going to have a look wednesday, so would appreciate any further advice (apart from not paying over £2000   ) Any way I can 'test' the engine for a dry bottom end? It's quite difficult to assess the bottom end without taking it to bits to be honest - unless it's already 'gone' of course, which would be very audible. Poor starting from cold might indicate leaking crank seals, as might any closed throttle rev hang-ups, but there can be much less drastic causes for both of these too of course. Any 'standing' damage to the crank, as described by Wullie, is likely to wait to make its presence felt 'til you've caned it a bit. Then it'll just go hdhdhdhdhdhdhdh and make you cry very expensive tears, I'd just be working on the assumption that it'd probably need a new crank and the strip and rebuild anciliaries - gaskets and so forth, and the labour to do it if it's not something you'd want to tackle yourself - and factor those into any haggling. If it turns out to be OK you win! If it picks up a main (not so bad) or big end (very bad) on you after a couple of hundred miles you haven't lost as big as you might have... Personally I factor in a top end rebuild on any old stroker I buy. And on a 3XV using genuine parts you are looking at over £250 just to do the pistons and rings etc. As I said earlier though, if you want it and the money isn't an issue, then just buy it and accept that it'll need work at some point if you plan to put some miles on it. All of these old shonkers are a labour of love in any case and inevitably require a good bit of TLC. It's worth bearing in mind what else you could buy for the same sort of money though... -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 24 2009,00:04 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 23 2009,21:42) Any 'standing' damage to the crank, as described by Wullie, is likely to wait to make its presence felt 'til you've caned it a bit. Then it'll just go hdhdhdhdhdhdhdh and make you cry very expensive tears, Thankfully, mine DIDN'T go "hdhdhdhdhdhdhdh" !!, or I'd have been hangin' myself, never mind cryin' !!     The motor did nigh on 2000 kms in its knackered state !!   It sounded, felt & ran fine to me !!   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 24 2009,00:20 Obviously not pushing it hard enough, Wullie . Those big ends certainly weren't long for this world by the look of them. A bit of sustained high revving under load would have seen 'em off I'd think.  Unless it'd slung a bit of bearing up the transfers and taken a barrel with it it wouldn't have been any more of job to fix in any case though really. And at least you'd have had the drama and 'excitement' of a 'big one' -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 24 2009,01:13 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 23 2009,22:20) And at least you'd have had the drama and 'excitement' of a 'big one' I've had enough of those in the past, thank you very much !!     I don't want any more !!   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

jools Group: Members Posts: 1221 Joined: Oct. 2005 Posted: Feb. 24 2009,05:46 If the seller is game and you have the kit you could do a leak down test - thats about the only way I know of determining crank seal state but it won't help the rest of the crank. but pound to a penny if the seals are gone the crank will be following if it hasn't run in ages. One word here if its a rebuild motor and crank that hasn't been run long or at all the seals will not go hard as quick. -------------- "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about...." oscar Wilde Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 25 2009,21:13 So, er, did you buy it, Bobby? -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 26 2009,19:49 Only just got back this afternoon. Sorry for the wait What do you guys think? Did I, or didn't I? Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 27 2009,00:41 I'm guessing you wandered round it in circles for ages thinking, "am I doing the right thing", then went "sod it !!" & bought it anyway !!   If you did, did you manage to haggle the price down a bit more than he was asking ??   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

StrokerBoy Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: Feb. 27 2009,11:27 Ooh, ooh, ask me !  I know !!   -------------- 3MA-SP, KR250 x4, GSX-R750RK, RB 50 Gag Back to top

Malc Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: Feb. 2009 Posted: Feb. 27 2009,12:48 I'm guessing he didn't... he would have been a gibbering wreck and desperate to tell everyone about his new toy if he did ;) Back to top

Warwickb Group: Members Posts: 1911 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: Feb. 27 2009,14:34 And I no longer care one way or the other  . -------------- A garage overflowing with old stinkers... Back to top

Malc Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: Feb. 2009 Posted: Feb. 27 2009,14:41 Quote (Warwickb @ Feb. 27 2009,12:34) And I no longer care one way or the other  . LOL!   Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 27 2009,15:51 Well I ..............................................didn't buy it It was in good cosmetic condition, but the mirrors were all scratched apparently, never got to see them. The drive chain needed changing, quite rusty, with some stiff links, battery was dead, petrol pissing all over the floor when idle and running, both fork seals leaking. I asked him what his best price was, and he insisted that it owed him £4500. Obviously I said that these faults alone would justify a reduction. Still said it owed him £4500. When I then said he bought it from Stafford in October, and that it was only up for £4250, and that he apparently paid less than this, he went a bit quite. Still wouldn't budge, so I said that I was staying local at Strokerboys house overnight before going back home the following day, and would sleep on it. His reply was if I didn't buy it there and then, it wouldn't be to me tomorrow! Suffice to say, left him with his overpriced petrol leaking TZR, still with my money in my pocket, ready for a decent seller to buy from       Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 28 2009,10:47 Good on ya Bobbyboy, I bet that took some will-power !!     I can't believe he wouldn't drop the price to reflect the work needing done to it !!   All the above "snags" could be sorted out for less than £100 quid, if done yourself, so, why hasn't he bothered to fix them ??!! It's not as if they're difficult jobs to do, after all !!   -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

essarjayauto Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: Dec. 2008 Posted: Feb. 28 2009,13:48 Quote (wullie3XV9 @ Feb. 28 2009,08:47) Good on ya Bobbyboy, I bet that took some will-power !!     I can't believe he wouldn't drop the price to reflect the work needing done to it !!   All the above "snags" could be sorted out for less than £100 quid, if done yourself, so, why hasn't he bothered to fix them ??!! It's not as if they're difficult jobs to do, after all !!   He probably know's of a few more fault's than the one's bobby spotted, and you know what it's like with these bike's. Once you get started......... Back to top

bobbyboy Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: Feb. 28 2009,14:35 I almost gave in a couple of times, but didn't let the owner know I wouldn't go further than my original offer, although it was tempting to For the best SP in the country, with no faults, and a guaranteed 'not to go bang' motor, maybe his price would be slightly more acceptable, but it isn't, although he led me to believe it was. Back to top

wullie3XV9 Wullie3XV9 Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: June 2008 Posted: Feb. 28 2009,14:45 Quote (essarjayauto @ Feb. 28 2009,11:48) ...and you know what it's like with these bike's. Once you get started... Don't I bloody well know it !!     -------------- Just when I'm about to make ends meet, someone moves the ends !! Back to top

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