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I have been offered a choice of two 3XVs. Now all I have seen is a photo of each but one is an SP, or thats what it says on the side and the other just says Sports Racer. I have asked the guy to check if the SP has a dry clutch etc but what other tell tale give aways are there. The bikes are in Japan so I cant exactly go and have a look. The SP has the darker red and black wheels but thats all I could make out.
The 3MA needs some company

Pat.

Do you have some pics?

No I don't. The only pictures I saw were on the guys camera, he didn't even get to upload them to his computer he had just flown back from Japan. He is asking for some info to be sent over.

The quickest way to figure out what chassis you have is to check the frame number on the headstock. With that you can easily match it up.
Otherwise the SP's generally have the sliding block chain adjuster along with the extra fork adjustment on top and on the bottom of the fork just below the caliper. If it's on original fairings the it'll have a cutout on the top fairing by the radiator. The RS is basically a R with a dry clutch.

ybk wrote:..... The RS is basically a R with a dry clutch.

Correct for a '92 3XV8 RS but not for the '93 3XV9 & '94 3XVA RS's, as the 9 & A also have the sliding block chain adjusters & fully adjustable suspension front & rear as well as the dry clutch unit. Early SP model rear springs are yellow as opposed to R/RS springs which are red. As YBK says, your best bet is to find out what the frame No. is to pin what model the frame is from, then find out what model suffix is on the base of the engine cylinders & on the cyl. heads, e.g., -10 cyls & -11 heads = '91 3XV2 SP.
There seems to be a lot of "Heinz 57 mongrels" out there these days being flogged as "genuine SP's" when in fact they are a collection of bits from various 3XV models, so do as much research as you can before parting with your money! My 3XV9 RS was advertised as an SP, but on checking the frame No. before buying, I discovered it was only an RS so was able to barter the price down a bit. Good luck with it anyway.

P.S. RS = Racing Sport & SP = Sport Production.

a few other things that might help are the radiator size - The SP has a deeper radiator with twin outlets at the top - one to each cylinder.

also the CDI number might be a help and also the airboxes and carb sizes - should be 36mm. 32mm depending on year.

Thanks for the info. What numbers are on the chassis to prove its a proper SP and not an R or RS. I will ask him to email me the picture of each tomorrow so at least if the pictures are on the laptop I might have some hope of seeing whats what. I'll keep you all posted.

Use the numbers and this site to figure it out
http://www.pure-2-stroke-spirit.info/

OK I am still waiting for more info but I got the pictures of the two bikes and I put in my 3MA because I could

These are the only two pictures we have at the moment but hopefully in the next few days we will have some more. They both look tidy but we have all been there before.

Top looks like a 3XV9 (RS with adjustable front suspension is that right?), bottom seems to be a 3XV5 - one of the nicest SP's. Looks like the fairing panel has a bit of damage but the rest looks tidy, lucky man

ybk wrote:Top looks like a 3XV9 (RS with adjustable front suspension is that right?), bottom seems to be a 3XV5 - one of the nicest SP's. Looks like the fairing panel has a bit of damage but the rest looks tidy, lucky man

It most certainly is. That's the colours my bikes tank, tail panels & fairing loweres should be in.
All the '93 year 3XV models ( 6 R, 7 SP & 9 RS ), have dark brown anodised fork uppers, red wheels & slight variations of the same basic colour scheme.
The '93 RS's front brake hoses, exhaust silencers & foot rest hangers have been replaced, but other than that it looks really nice & relatively unmolested / original.
Is it me or is the tip of the front brake lever on the RS been bent forward slightly ?

Decisions, decisions

I got a chassis number 3XV 078620. Still waiting for more info hopefully later today.

More info, its a 92 model and is an SP well thats according to the guy in Japan. 16k on the clock and here are the rest of the pictures. I have agreed to get it

Just take both

Even I couldn't justify that to myself

epa police wrote:I got a chassis number 3XV 078620. Still waiting for more info hopefully later today.

Hmmm, I'd get them to double check the chassis number, as the 3XV5 SP's were numbered 078101 to 078600. ( Only 500 of each SP model were built ).
That 3XV5 appears to be the 520th built ! It does look like a genuine 3XV5 though. Hope this helps.

Just ask him to take off the tank and airbox & check the carb size - thats a give away really - if they are 28mm its an R or RS.
Or give you the part number from the top airbox cover as a guide.

I might have a few bits in good condition if you eventually get it to Sydney. There is no problem with the R/RS really as long as you know before hand & the price is adjusted.

Ok he has requested a double check from the guy in Japan. He is just a pen pusher so he might have made a mistake. Have to wait and see again