As an owner of 2 2MA's I have looked everywhere for replica fairings, as we all know OEM equipment is long gone and whatever is still knocking around is getting very long in the tooth.
I was lucky enough to recently win a NSR250 MC21 in a raffle (Yes it can happen) better still it was one built by an active member of this forum, Mellorp.
He basically did all the work, sold it on to Fastline who in turn sold it JP performance who raffled it and I won it.
The fairing on the MC21 I think is pretty good, I am no expert granted but in my eyes I have no complaints, after contacting Mr Mellor, who was nothing but helpful and honest (I hope) he informed me that the fairing is indeed a pattern bought for £250 from a place on the south coast. After contact with them I found that the fairing was actually manufactured in China.
Now back to the 2MA problem, basically I cannot find anyone who makes a fairing as a replacement, I am sure that most have hit the same brick wall.
If I could get an ABS fairing to the same quality as the NSR I would be more than happy. There are plenty available for 3MA and 3XV but for some reason I can't find anyone who sell what I would like, a 2MA fairing. Strangely the adverts show a picture of a 2MA/1KT but list it as a 3MA or 3XV, very confusing!
My question is, how many 2MA's are still about? how many require or would consider replacing their OEM with a good quality pattern.
My thoughts are that if we hit a supplier with some good numbers it may spur them into producing a fairing almost unopposed in the marketplace, a business dream scenario if Dragons Den is anything to go by.
Any thoughts from anyone would be welcome as I am fed up trolling the internet looking for something that doesn't seem to exist.
Just been searching again tonight....thats why I came on here :)) .
Looked at the dh gate links, and I've always stayed away as the pics don't match the description.
My project really needs a fairing and I've had a light weight race fairing on track and it just got shacken to pieces around the mounting holes. Plus it doesn't bounce well 😕
So abs is defo what I'd prefer.
If the dh gate fairing was legit, with confirmed purchases being reported as good, I'd go for it.
If you have any luck finding a supplier, I'd be interested. However I think this project will take some time to get moving, and I may have cracked and sourced parts by then O:-)
Following with interest (-P)
I spoke to the supplier of the Honda fairing and explained to the staff member about the issue but she seemed to be sales only and if I am honest did not have a great grasp of the issue.
I did feel she seemed to think it was a good idea, but, I think it needs to be taken to a higher level and someone who has a little bit more knowledge of the market.
My thoughts are that there are an awful lot of 2MA owners about, I might be wrong but there as possibly as many 2MA's about as 3MA/3XV. I do realize that the latter are the far better bike but there were a fair amount of 2MA's legitimately imported in the late 80's as oppose to the grey imported versions
Basically, if the supplier could source as decent a fairing as the NSR for the 2MA I really think they could be in a good position, they just need convincing is going to be worth their effort.
Can you say who the supplier was.
Are they a big enough company to take on another product as involved as this?
They seem to have a pretty big range of spares,
The are called the Motorcyle spares warehouse and do a number of other replacement fairings for mostly newer and more common bikes, as I said previously they do a pretty good MC21 fairing and I consider them a fairly rare bike, there surely must be a bigger number of 2MA/1KT about than MC21's still knocking around.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402641747347
There is one supplier which produces fairings for 1KT/2XT in Japan.
It is called Taira Racing.
See the attached photo.
But the fairings are made to order, and they cannot arrange overseas shipping.
Maybe you can use an intermediary.
Website(Japanese only)
http://www.tairaracing.co.jp/news/detail/319
i can make these fairing kits (ABS) and pretty much all accessories like seat covers and so on. im not currently willing to embark on the mission of gathering data and machining moulds for the 1kt or 2ma but its something i will look at in the future if there's enough demand. (-P)
Quote from: YUTAKA on July 06, 2021, 09:14:49 AM
There is one supplier which produces fairings for 1KT/2XT in Japan.
It is called Taira Racing.
See the attached photo.
But the fairings are made to order, and they cannot arrange overseas shipping.
Maybe you can use an intermediary.
Website(Japanese only)
http://www.tairaracing.co.jp/news/detail/319
Oooh, interesting and nice to see some one make something for the parallel twins.
However I'm not too keen (aesthetically speaking) on the way they sectioned the front fairing.
Although in some ways I think it may be stronger, with fewer sections joining.....fewer fasteners to cause stress raisers in the plastic.....it could be a good shout :-\
Quote from: autoStinger on July 06, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
i can make these fairing kits (ABS) and pretty much all accessories like seat covers and so on. im not currently willing to embark on the mission of gathering data and machining moulds for the 1kt or 2ma but its something i will look at in the future if there's enough demand. (-P)
Thank you so much for revealing yourself, I was beginning to doubt our UK capabilities, I find it so hard to believe that ABS fairings are the sole property of Chinese manufacturers. I am not critisizing the Chinese products, as I said I have one on my MC21 and am thoroughly pleased with it, that said it was Mellorp that actually did the work and I tip my hat to him for that. I know there have been some pretty dodgy fairings coming out of China but I for one do not tar them all with the same brush, that would be unfair on those doing a good job but China is a long way away and the distance and language issues do not help with any problems that may or not crop up.
Without repeating myself from previous posts as I feel I have put the case for 2MA owners, there must be a goodly amount of these bikes knocking around the UK not to mention europe and elswhere, all with pretty old, over patched up fairings. I for one am getting to the point that original fairings are not worth trying to save if an at least reasonable replacement is available. For no other reason but to save the original in the loft out of harm and wears way so you can at least ride your bike and enjoy without the stress of the ineveitable scratch ruining your pride and joy.
I can totally see where you are coming from in not investing time and materials in selling 20 odd fairings, that would be unreasonable for anyone to expect,
This is the time for 2MA owners to throw their hat in the ring, we have been negleted for long enough over the 3MA/3XT owners (not that this is a battle)
I for one am willing to put my money where my mouth is and will have two straight off the bat, and am interested in what numbers you would consider as a feasible investment in possible production.
Quote from: YUTAKA on July 06, 2021, 09:14:49 AM
There is one supplier which produces fairings for 1KT/2XT in Japan.
It is called Taira Racing.
See the attached photo.
But the fairings are made to order, and they cannot arrange overseas shipping.
Maybe you can use an intermediary.
Website(Japanese only)
http://www.tairaracing.co.jp/news/detail/319
I thank you for you information, it is good of you to take the time to reply and it is also an option to consider. It is actually the only available option at the moment but as you have said there is already problems with shipping not to mention the language barrier, your English is 99% better than my Japanese.
If there is no other solution I will certainly be getting Google translate fired up and it would seem, looking for an import company but it should not really be as difficult as it seems it is going to be just to get a fairing for what I think is a fairly common bike.
As a additional comment after checking the cost, the thick end of £750 for a fairing without shipping to be added is possibly out of many peoples budget.
Most of the Chinese fairings are nearly half the cost, just none of them for 2MA, which takes us back to the origial problem
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As a additional comment after checking the cost, the thick end of £750 for a fairing without shipping to be added is possibly out of many peoples budget.
Most of the Chinese fairings are nearly half the cost
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Yup. If autoStinger was able to come back with a ball park figure I'd let you know if I could put the cash in. Then you'd have another kit to add to the list (or not).
I do want to put my bike back to a reasonable condition, but in the scheme of things, can not commit straight off without knowing the cost.
So far the bike is looking like it will be ready by spring 2022. Which to be fair would be pushing it I reckon for a company to start making moulds and turning out parts in any quantity....???
I'm from an automotive background, but maybe a smaller more agile supplier could surprise me if they saw a good opportunity in the 2ma's? However our list of possibly 3 kits does not seem too big of an opportunity ( come on you 2ma/1kt owners!!!!)
Totally agree, a ball park figure would be great.
I don't know what other fairings autostinger already does but I would hope the price will be comparable.
I am sure that we are not alone in this problem of beyond help fairings, at least I don't feel I am the only one anymore.
As you say, "come on 2MA/1KT owners" this could be your chance to get your you bike looking stunning at reasonable cost.
If anyone is at all interested please say so because at the present there are very few options available.
Fibreglass fairings were once being made a few years ago in the uk and were mainly bought by the Yamaha Past Masters Racing club members and were a good price.
Non racers could also buy them too.
I don't know what happened to the maker of them as the website is a lot less accessible now than what it used to be with a lot of valuable info and contacts disappearing.
Yambits in the uk sell both the upper and lower fairing in plain white fibreglass for £104.99 each.
Quote from: teezer250 on July 07, 2021, 05:54:12 PM
Fibreglass fairings were once being made a few years ago in the uk and were mainly bought by the Yamaha Past Masters Racing club members and were a good price.
Non racers could also buy them too.
I don't know what happened to the maker of them as the website is a lot less accessible now than what it used to be with a lot of valuable info and contacts disappearing.
Yambits in the uk sell both the upper and lower fairing in plain white fibreglass for £104.99 each.
Fibreglass is not really what I am looking for, thanks for the information though.,
I have not anything against Fibeglass most of my race bikes fairings were made of it and once paintered and stickered looked fine they even took the abuse the TT course threw at them and believe me that is a lot of shaking. The object of the excercise is as long as a race bike looks OK that is the job done, it is never going to be looked at with the keen eye of a real enthuiast
The thing is, the quality of finish compared to even a mediocre ABS fairing is chalk and cheese. The really annoying thing is that they can be produced but for some reason, that I cannot fathom, they aren't, I do wonder if I am missing something
i have been away from that type of work for a while now after getting sick a few years ago im slowly getting back on my feet but it will take a while before im set up and back in operation of any kind. a ball park figure would be hard to estimate at this stage as i am now out of the loop however i am confident i could slash those 750 prices in half at least. i will look into it when im in a better situation
Sorry to hear you have not been in the best of health and hope you are well on the mend, look after youself first then with a bit of luck there will have been enough 2MA owners who have read this post and have shown an interest in good replacement ABS fairings.
As no-one else seems to be making them it does appear to tick the boxes for all involved.
Indeed, gotta wish autoStinger well in recovery.
I may resort to buying a beaten up front upper fairing just so i can mot the bike.
It would be worth waiting for a decent abs front fairing for sure. So I'm still up for seeing if it can be done.
My old fibreglass race fairing was from demon tweaks I think.....back in 2001 ???
I could cut holes in it for lights, but it was so thin already, I don't think it would last much longer.
Would be interested in a set Price dependant.
I am in SA so I know shipping might not be cheap.
Hi to all, I'm new on the forum after picking up a 2MA in July of this year and I have been reading the thread on the abs fairing and I to would also be interested in purchasing one if it's a good quality replacement. The original fairing on my bike is very good but it does have the crack leading to the left hand upper fairing/mirror mount that a couple of other 2MA/1KT's I viewed also suffered with. Changing the subject slightly has anyone had this area of the fairing successfully repaired/plastic welded previously ?
Yes I'm attempting the same repair and hopefully won't have to keep doing it, my solution if it works is to Dremel away some of the plastic in order to bury and glue in Meccano strips, fingers crossed.
That's a very tidy looking bike Arev2311!
To back up Kev's idea. Dremeling a groove along the crack and then using solvent to glue in a piece of ABS seems to work well.
I use ABS filament for a 3D printer and a very liquid solvent which works its way into the join through capillary action. Build it up, then dremel/sand back before painting.
Thanks for the reply and advice both Kev and tzar250. I was thinking of trying to strengthen it in some way, had also thought about perhaps trying to extend the brackets somehow to stop any flex. Let me know how it goes Kev 👍
I would be interested as well, I have bought a fiberglass fairing for my TZR, but the fit isn't perfect.. so a brand new fairing would be lovely!
Quote from: Arev2311 on October 09, 2021, 10:39:57 AM
Hi to all, I'm new on the forum after picking up a 2MA in July of this year and I have been reading the thread on the abs fairing and I to would also be interested in purchasing one if it's a good quality replacement. The original fairing on my bike is very good but it does have the crack leading to the left hand upper fairing/mirror mount that a couple of other 2MA/1KT's I viewed also suffered with. Changing the subject slightly has anyone had this area of the fairing successfully repaired/plastic welded previously ?
dremel away
a little on the inside
coat with araldite ( the slow one ) and press in some carbon fiber.
when set, rub it down with some 400 grit wet and dry give it a second treatment.
then do the same on the outside
it works a treat and is very strong i dont know of any other epoxies that stick propperly to abs
i have used simmilar technique to replace snapped lugs with no problems
OK, its been a while, over a 12 months in fact....where did that bloody year go?
In my defence, its been pretty manic work wise but I am getting back to the point where I a get chance to fart now, but on the plus side I have filled the stable up with some new bikes, I have no more room for any more so need to get some jobs done.
The big winter project is the proposed 2MA rebuild, engine is pretty well sorted its the bodywork, a ciminal abuse of what it was (Performance Bikes Front Cover) to what some A Hole did to it! I will post some pictures so you can see what I mean.
Bottom line is, it needs a new fairing amongst other things but I'd love a decent plastic replica, auto Stinger, who was not in the best of health a year ago did hint that he had the ability to produce such a thing.
Firstly, and most importently, I hope his health has improved, secondly, would he be prepared to look at manufacture of said fairing?
I will PM him to see how things are.
If anone else is at all interested shout up as making a mould is a fair bit of work and doing for half a dozen won't make it cost effictive.
Unless, Someone else is now making 2MA Plastic fairing, which I somehow doubt
or
Has anyone fitted a 3MA or 3XV fairing to a 2MA and found it possible or impossible? as at least these are available in China
Yes I'm still interested in a fairing as before 👍
interested as well. (-P)
It would be really interesting to see his approach.
A direct copy would probably mean more people are interested due to the possibility of mixing and matching panels when required.
But if changing the fitment meant easier manufacturabillity (and liklihood of actually getting some made) then so be it (-P)
I'd defo still be interested in pricing.
Mainly in the front fairing sections.
:D
Shop97finland anyone got any feedback on the 2ma fairings?
I bought a rear end for my racing motorcycle from finnland72 and I am very satisfied with the part that was delivered. If anyone would like to make a replica of the original 2MA fairing, I can offer a new original right hand cowling front piece for molding
Any news on replacement fairings for our 1KT/2MA's yet?
I have no problem find replacements for the 3MA and 3Xv, zero for the 1KT/2MA!
Quote from: Kev on November 07, 2022, 05:43:06 PMShop97finland anyone got any feedback on the 2ma fairings?
Yes, I have bought the fairing from shop97finland.
It is not a perfect fit. And there is a lot of modification you will have to do in order to get it fit.
There is something off around the headlight unit, as in the distance from headlight to fairing is of. The two parts where you would mount the fairing to the headlight/cockpit holder (left and right side of the headlight from inside the cockpit). Is not there, so you would have to figure something out yourself.
The cut between upper and lower part is not perfect either.