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Wossner 3XV R/RS Piston Kits Coming Soon - Pre Order Yours Now

Started by jcsnook, December 10, 2012, 04:53:59 PM

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jcsnook

Sorry, haven't check with them yet.  I was kind of waiting for more interest, but it may not happen.  I'll email them Monday for some current pricing and let you and Paul know...Murray too if still in the market
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!

yanw

I'm maybe interested in a pair. I am also interested in being your European distributor as there is an increasing number of guys wanting them in EU and we get hit twice for import duties into the USA and then back to the EU.

I don't want to make a penny from this. You take the money for the bits, they ship half (or whatever) of the order to me, I post them to the guys in Europe for cost, they just Paypal me the delivery costs.

Paul and Dan will vouch for me. I don't want to make money, I just want to stop paying tax to Governments.

Have a think, I'm cool either way.

4l04ever

I may be interested, but dependent on price.  Do they solve the problem with the ring pins wearing?
3XV-1 Trackbike
TSA Pipes
30.5mm Carbs
Modified Airboxes
Zeeltronic Ignition System

3XV-1 Trackbike #2 project......

jcsnook

Quote from: 4l04ever on June 08, 2014, 01:21:39 PM
I may be interested, but dependent on price.  Do they solve the problem with the ring pins wearing?

They should I suspect, they are a forged piston, not cast as the OEM - much stronger.  Not certain if that makes a hill of beans difference in the ring peg, but as of now, no one has reported a ring peg issue.  They have however, not been running in any bikes for many years/many miles as they are all new.  The ring peg does appear to be set deep in the piston tho  :)

Quote from: yanw on June 08, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
I'm maybe interested in a pair. I am also interested in being your European distributor as there is an increasing number of guys wanting them in EU and we get hit twice for import duties into the USA and then back to the EU.

I don't want to make a penny from this. You take the money for the bits, they ship half (or whatever) of the order to me, I post them to the guys in Europe for cost, they just Paypal me the delivery costs.

Paul and Dan will vouch for me. I don't want to make money, I just want to stop paying tax to Governments.

Have a think, I'm cool either way.

Yanw, I'll discuss with Wossner what is involved with that, I'm not sure how they handle it.  I had to run the distributorship thru a buddies motorcycle transmission business R&D Motorsports.

I don't think there are double tax/import duties being paid tho.  As I understand it...pistons are made in Germany and shipped to Wossner USA in California (no import tax, [not to me anyway]).  They are then distributed to me with nothing more than a shipping charge which is usually minimal (I don't get charged an import tax on items shipped to me from California).  I ship them out USPS, as a gift, with a low value and if requested, no insurance.  That should be the only import duties/tax you should be seeing?

However I agree with you that if the pistons can avoid the trip from EU to USA, then back to EU, it makes sense.  However last time I asked if a local in Germany could come pick them up direct from the factory...I was told no.  They would only ship the pistons to me, the dealer.  Maybe you and I can work something out and I can send you a large order at once and save on fees that way?  Regardless, I'll ask and let you know.
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!

4l04ever

3XV-1 Trackbike
TSA Pipes
30.5mm Carbs
Modified Airboxes
Zeeltronic Ignition System

3XV-1 Trackbike #2 project......

jcsnook

Got a response today from Wossner USA on current pricing.  A slight increase in the beginning of this year:

"Dear Wossner Pistons dealers,

Thank you for your continued support of Wossner Pistons.

There has been a slight increase in piston pricing due to the push in Europe to convert to clean renewable energy sources. Because of this, our manufacturing facility in Germany has experienced a nearly 100% increase in monthly electricity cost. In order to maintain a level of profitability, a small price increase was required to help offset the major increase in manufacturing cost we now face."


So, price per piston kit will be $165 USD.  So a pair (2 kits) will cost $330 USD plus shipping.  Only a slight increase from last time I checked for Gary when they were $162.50 per kit.

They do have a minimum order quantity of four (4) pistons.  I suspect, like last time, if we order more than ten (10), I suspect the per kit price may drop slightly, but am not sure by how much.  There does not seem to be that many people needing them as of now anyway.

Same as last time, I'd need a 50% deposit to secure your order (Wossner requires that from me).  So let me know if you're interested.

Quote from: yanw on June 08, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
I'm maybe interested in a pair. I am also interested in being your European distributor as there is an increasing number of guys wanting them in EU and we get hit twice for import duties into the USA and then back to the EU.

I don't want to make a penny from this. You take the money for the bits, they ship half (or whatever) of the order to me, I post them to the guys in Europe for cost, they just Paypal me the delivery costs.

Paul and Dan will vouch for me. I don't want to make money, I just want to stop paying tax to Governments.

Have a think, I'm cool either way.

Yanw,

I also got an answer to your question.  Does not sound like any savings to be had there...

"Jim,

In order for them to go direct to a person in Europe like that, They would have to be purchased direct from Wossner GmbH. The cost would be in Euro's and increase substantially from what your currently paying.

Thanks"
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!

eyrey1

that still works out cheaper than i paid jim
as pound is stronger ! £194 a pair at $330 thats allot cheaper than yam ones at £150 each
but there is shipping on the wossners to the uk and maybe import if your very unlucky

Neal

Jim - if I wanted some pistons made what info do you need from me ? Can email if you want . It's nealgreyplumba@hotmail.com

Thanks
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jools

I got a question here............

If you order and buy from Wossner Gmbh direct from UK there will be no duty or VAT (EEC??) on entry into UK. Then split order and ship balance to USA.

Currently you will pay shipping to USA of X kg then shipping to UK X/2 kg for example.

would it not be cheaper to ship all of order  within Europe first then split and ship to USA

just a thought.
Plus ce la change, plus ce la memchose

Paul

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TZ250 4DP2

jools

Up here for thinking down there for dancing as my old muckas used to say  ;)
Plus ce la change, plus ce la memchose

jcsnook

Not sure jools?  I interpret their response as it would cost more to buy them directly from Wossner Gmbh, then buying them from Wossner USA?

I checked the last invoice I got from Wossner for 8 piston kits and they didn't charge me any shipping.  Maybe it's already built into the price of the piston kits - not sure, but I did not get charged for shipping from Germany to California, nor charged for shipping from California to Florida.  Only on my initial order of 24 piston kits (large box) was I charged for shipping from California to Florida and it was only $26.05 USD.  Not significant really.  If you split that out among the 12 buyers it's $2.17 additional.

Neal, I'll email you directly...but I provided them with a sample piston to duplicate.  That would be my recommendation.
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!

jools

Jim

If that is the case then stick with it. Not only that your price into the USA will be VAT free.
I was just looking at the logical option, which as you prove doesn't necessarily pan out.

Thats not bad shipping - when RSC wanted US$45 to send 8 crank shims to Oz !!
Plus ce la change, plus ce la memchose