TZR 3MA De-restricted

[Abie1]

Hello everyone, my name is Abie. I'm completely new here, this is my first post  very great to read some of the information from this forum concerning TZR 3MA. first of all, sorry for my bad english. I hope I can share my thought and experience about TZR 3MA.

Here's what I want to ask about. I've been reading some from this forum about de-restricted the TZR 3MA, since it have speed limiter of 180km/h. I've been riding my bike several times try to reach 180km/h. Feels great all the way from the start until it always stop at 180km/h.

Anyone can tell me how to de-restricted TZR 3MA to reach higher top speed than 180km/h?

Thank you 

[tzr-v4]

Hello,
Search the forum this have been discussed several times.
Louis have put a lot of data on this and also on his web.

Good search...

[mellorp]

Welcome Abie

What is your location ? You can add it to your profile

The site you need is http://www.tzr3ma.com/index.html with the speedo section http://www.tzr3ma.com/speed-limiter-bypass.html or put an mph/kph converter so the speedo registers mph and never actually reaches the 180 figure on the speedo

[Abie1]

Hello,
Search the forum this have been discussed several times.
Louis have put a lot of data on this and also on his web.

Good search...

Hi there,

Yes, i've been reading on how Louis by pass it with a switch, but I'm still not sure how to by pass and how it works exactly, how can I do it, on where the cables I have to go to. hahaha

I'm so sorry, I'm very a newbie as a 3MA user and in this forum. 

[tzr-v4]

On 3MA it is similar to 3XV (I'm not a pro...)

There is a tab in the speedo that you need to cut (trim down) to avoid the tab entering the sensor.

Check Louis web too http://www.tzr3ma.com/

Olivier.

[Abie1]

Welcome Abie

What is your location ? You can add it to your profile

The site you need is http://www.tzr3ma.com/index.html with the speedo section http://www.tzr3ma.com/speed-limiter-bypass.html or put an mph/kph converter so the speedo registers mph and never actually reaches the 180 figure on the speedo

Thank you,

I am from Jakarta, Indonesia. Yes sure, I will update it after this. I've been trying to ad my profile picture also but the loading seems too long. haha

Yes, I've been reading about the by passing the speedo and using switch on the limiter. But i'm not quite understand how it works, when I have to switch it on or off to turn off the limiter.

Thank you for your information sharing, Really appreciate it 

[Abie1]

On 3MA it is similar to 3XV (I'm not a pro...)

There is a tab in the speedo that you need to cut (trim down) to avoid the tab entering the sensor.

Check Louis web too http://www.tzr3ma.com/

Olivier.

Yes I've been reading it too. But it seems by just only removing the tab will make the cdi restricted or limit the rpm and top speed all the time from the start.

Thank you, I've been reading it as my references for my 3MA.

[Edd]

Hi

If you open your speedo at the back you will see a u shaped sensor blue in colour. Manually by hand turn the needle to 180 kmph you will see what the guys mean by trimming the metal back. Alternatively fit a zeel ignition if it is speed and power you are after thats the way to go.

Edd

[Louis]

Hello Abbie,

I have seen your questions on my site, my apologies for not responding that fast.
But your not the only one who has questions, and sometimes I forget to answer back

There are two (real) options

1) most easy is (already told here) that would be to use a mph/kph converter.

2) is to remove the speed limiter circuitboard out off your speedo clock, so you can control it manually.


Why so difficult?

The metal tap in the speedo must bee seen when you switch on ignition if it is not seen it goes into his safety mode.
When you trim the disk down then in rest position the optics are not blocked so it goes into his safety mode (on stock pipes you hardly noticed it as the mode kicks in at 9750rpm)

But if you have trimmed the disk back and the CDI is in its ''safe mode'' you can pas the 180KMH because your bike is not at the 9750rpm (real rpm no tacho reading) when in six gear. when you hit the 180 (also depending on gearing)

To get full potential from your speedlimiter you need to take it outside and control it manually.
Like this: http://www.tzr3ma.com/controlled-limiter.html


to use it like this:
1) Engine off, contact off. (Logical your starting position)
2) Tyrep between the optics (This symbolizes your metal tap),
3) Turn ignition on kick the bike into live
4) Pull tyrep out off the optics
5) Your free to go to your max speed
This is of course needed every time you start your bike



A other thing you may consider is a whole differend thing

I read that you tried serval times to get max speed . (You know a 3MA is not famous when it comes to reliability)
Keeping the bike full throttle for a long time and not knowing what your jetting is, is walking on a thin line.

Pleas make sure that you have your jetting correct, you are pushing your luck with all that top speed stuff

[Paul]

is there a link to the 105 mod for Arbie, he needs to discipline his friends with a real 250!

[mellorp]

is there a link to the 105 mod for Arbie, he needs to discipline his friends with a real 250!

http://www.tzr3ma.com/3ma-manual-s.html

[Warwick]

If you just want t remove the 180 kph speedo restriction follow the instructions below

[Abie1]

Hi

If you open your speedo at the back you will see a u shaped sensor blue in colour. Manually by hand turn the needle to 180 kmph you will see what the guys mean by trimming the metal back. Alternatively fit a zeel ignition if it is speed and power you are after thats the way to go.

Edd

Hi Edd

Thank you for your response. Yes, Zeel ignition is the one that I desire for my bike, I think later I will fit em on my bike. Since now I am still a student and have quite tight budget so Zeel ignition is on the list for me now hahaha. I've been seen it on Youtube and it sounds very convincing product.

Abie

[Abie1]

Hello Abbie,

I have seen your questions on my site, my apologies for not responding that fast.
But your not the only one who has questions, and sometimes I forget to answer back

There are two (real) options

1) most easy is (already told here) that would be to use a mph/kph converter.

2) is to remove the speed limiter circuitboard out off your speedo clock, so you can control it manually.


Why so difficult?

The metal tap in the speedo must bee seen when you switch on ignition if it is not seen it goes into his safety mode.
When you trim the disk down then in rest position the optics are not blocked so it goes into his safety mode (on stock pipes you hardly noticed it as the mode kicks in at 9750rpm)

But if you have trimmed the disk back and the CDI is in its ''safe mode'' you can pas the 180KMH because your bike is not at the 9750rpm (real rpm no tacho reading) when in six gear. when you hit the 180 (also depending on gearing)

To get full potential from your speedlimiter you need to take it outside and control it manually.
Like this: http://www.tzr3ma.com/controlled-limiter.html


to use it like this:
1) Engine off, contact off. (Logical your starting position)
2) Tyrep between the optics (This symbolizes your metal tap),
3) Turn ignition on kick the bike into live
4) Pull tyrep out off the optics
5) Your free to go to your max speed
This is of course needed every time you start your bike



A other thing you may consider is a whole differend thing

I read that you tried serval times to get max speed . (You know a 3MA is not famous when it comes to reliability)
Keeping the bike full throttle for a long time and not knowing what your jetting is, is walking on a thin line.

Pleas make sure that you have your jetting correct, you are pushing your luck with all that top speed stuff

Hello Louis,

Not a problem at all, I do understand that and your responses before that is already very helpful for me a lot, Thank you so much But me as a Newbie of TZR 3MA still looking for another information for this bike and I have seen your website either as my main references.
Because in Indonesia, 250cc 2 stroke sport bike is very rare, and TZR 3MA is the rarest one. I never seen another one other than mine hahaha. So it is very difficult to share about my 3MA in Indonesia.

okay, back to the main topic
1) What the Mph converter looks like? have someone did the kph to mph converter?

2) Control the sensor manually as you did for your bike.

I think I will do the one that you did of controlling the sensor manually, since in Indonesia the standard speedometer is KPH I think looking the MPH converter is a bit harder for me.

Thank you Louis for the information as clear as crystal here for controlling the Limiter sensor. I will try it on my bike later and post my result here 

[Abie1]

is there a link to the 105 mod for Arbie, he needs to discipline his friends with a real 250!

http://www.tzr3ma.com/3ma-manual-s.html

Thank you Paul and Mellorp,

This information is very helpful for me