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Project: Garage Find

Started by squirrel_hunter, January 20, 2013, 02:03:21 AM

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Neal

You can get clear vht paint , beautiful bike !
unofficial lap record holder --- to be corrected one day !

squirrel_hunter

It has been a little while since there was an update here. I have been doing some little bits in the background but I've mainly been waiting for parts these past few weeks. The Christmas break didn't help and I'm still waiting for some last few bits and discovering more that I need. Anyway to keep the momentum up, here is a little something I've been working on...



The original carbs. I did think of finding a replacement set and using them but felt that it would be worth having a look at what I had.



So I opened them up, with the use of a Dremel to cut a couple of rounded screws off and this is what I found.



The observant among you may think that these carbs are being stripped down in a bath tub. You would be correct. Where else would I do this sort of work?

Anyway, I thought that cleaning them up might be worth a shot as I'd read about ultrasonic cleaning. Trouble is I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner. So after considering buying one, I decided to take the pair of carbs into Rolling Art Motorcycles as they have the unit and fluid. So after the carbs spent a day in the cleaner I had something that I could work with.



So I started off with the needle slide and a replacement needle set.



Oddly enough at the end of the needle replacement I was left with a couple of bits from the kit. Suggestions please...



Another point of interest was the throttle stop screw. It would appear the Yamaha has changed the design. The original is on the right, the new kit on the left. I've decided to go with the new kit as the original was quite rusty, but useable and I was actually surprised was not seized when I removed it.



So anyway here is the main body freshly cleaned up and blasted with the compressor with a new needle valve seat fitted.



After that the float and pin went in and the float height checked. Both carbs float height were within service limits without alteration.



The bowl bottom with a new drain screw, gasket, and screws were fitted to the main body and the slide put into the body.



And the carb was built once the top was put on. I had to cut a new section of pipe as the original was as hard and brittle as one of my Mothers cakes. Steve Lynham Motorcycles supplied the pipe from their miscellaneous box of bits.



Both carbs are now bagged up to keep them fresh while I wait for the intake rubbers.

squirrel_hunter

And I almost forgot, I built a new choke assembly.



New plunger kit and cables were installed to the original choke lever and case. Just need to add a little grease for the slide and install them to the carbs once I have them ready to go on the bike.



But until then they are bagged up like the carbs...

ybk

Nice! Bet those fresh carb internals will save a lot of headache later! 8)

Paul

you just know its gonna be a cracker. fun fun and more fun
the twins:-
TZR250 3xv
TZ250 4DP2

squirrel_hunter

More work has been done...



Firstly the Thermostat was cleaned and placed into the head.



This enabled me to put the cover or Thermostat housing on with some new ally cap head bolts I happened to discover in the garage. A new set of NGK plugs went in and the were connected up, I even checked the spark gaps which were spot on.



I also tightened up all the engine mounting points once I received the last remaining parts I needed for the balance bar. Basically I'd muddled up a couple of bolts and confused myself. Plus the addition of the nut that I replaced when I accidently removed the welded one having a different pitch didn't help. Anyway most of these mounting points required some thread lock and a nice amount of torque so hopefully they wont be going anywhere.



I also built the right foot peg up and mounted that. I was able to reuse the brake lever as it was undamaged, just needed a going over with some Autosol and a bit of wet and dry to remove some odd yellow covering that reminded me of dried brake fluid.



At the same time I put the brake switch in (on the second attempt, thankfully I had a reference picture as I was way out on length for adjustment). But I have no idea what the little tab and hole is for which can be seen directly in line with the exhaust bolt and the end of the switch?



I have managed to misplace the coolant drain bolt and a couple of the water pump cover bolts, but my local bolt supplier had some of the right design and pitch but the wrong length. So I cut them down. Interestingly I tried ordering a replacement drain bolt from Yamaha but the one I ended up with was the wrong size, I think they may have changed part numbers over the years and some of the detail has been lost. Anyway a new cover gasket.



This enabled me to put the cover on and finish up on the clutch cover once I put a new Yambits clutch cable in.

squirrel_hunter

Some of you may remember the problem that I had with the front brake caliper, basically after rebuilding it I manage to strip the nipple bolt thread. Had it helicoiled but discovered it was leaking. So I needed to replace the caliper. Luckily I had a spare that I ended up with when I bought a replacement spindle. Unfortunately it was rather seized. After managing to get 2 of the pistons out I was stuck with the remaining 2 on the other side and to avoid a fit of rage I put the caliper to one side.



The trouble here was that there was still a little brake fluid in the caliper that I hadn't noticed and it leaked out.

Coupled with the general chips from use, it wasn't something I was happy to put back on the bike. A check of eBay presented me with a number of similar looking replacement options. So I came up with the idea of repainting it myself.



Another search of eBay gave me some VHT caliper paint in gold. And thus a can was ordered. But I needed to remove the old paint first. And so a cunning plan was formed, brake fluid strips paint, I have some old brake fluid...



And so the caliper was left to soak in some old fluid for a few days. If I'm honest I was slightly disappointed with the results. Yes the paint was lifted in some areas but not all and it was still very much on there.

But the fluid had weakened it, or that's the best way I can describe it. The paint is very soft and with a little scratching from a pick and some wet and dry I have made a good impact on it with little effort.



The caliper is back in the fluid now. I'll have another go in a few days. Hopefully the remaining paint will be softened enough by then that it will come off with a little more light sanding. Then it will be a good wash and clean up before I give it a go with the paint.

squirrel_hunter

I've been doing a couple of other things, but have spent a lot of time waiting for some parts that finally arrived this week. But first now I have built the carbs, its time to connect them to something. Some thing like...



A new set of throttle cables.



And a new pair of powervalve cables.



So I connected them all up with the powervalve servo and the carbs ready to fit to the bike.



The reed valves were stripped and cleaned. And after careful consideration I have decided to stick with the standard and original reeds.



So the blocks were built. The only bit I needed was the intake rubbers. The originals were cracked. The first set of replacements were split on the balance tube mount but wasn't obvious and the second set of replacements had the oil intakes removed for reasons unknown to me.



Now Yamaha still have these intakes for sale, but they are far from cheap. But after a couple of weeks wait a pair arrived for me from Malaysia via eBay. Not cheap, but I got the pair for roughly the same price as one.



And so I fitted the reed blocks, spacers, gaskets, and inlet rubbers to the engine. The bolts are the originals and will be replaced so there are not torqued up. I thought I had replacements but not so. Will be in my local bolt shop on Monday, I have a feeling though that I will be cutting a few bolts down to length.

squirrel_hunter

With the intakes on it would be rude not to fit the carbs now wouldn't it?



So I did.



New clamps from Yambits to hold the carbs on. Plugged in the oil feed tubes, and discovered some damage to the ends of them that I didn't spot when I dismantled them. Will have to see what can be done about that later.



Next was to put the cables and servo on. In the picture above the throttle cables are not routed quite right, but it gives you some idea of the first attempt. I don't have a good picture of the correct (or at least what I'm going with) routing at the moment.



The oil pump was hooked up. Needed to tap the cable hole as the some powdercoat had closed it up at the end but it wasn't to difficult.



And the powervalve cables were connected. All the cabling needs proper setting up, but for now all I'm interested in is getting the routing right and the bits on the bike.



A new twist grip and switch gear has been sourced as the originals were well used.



With them on the bike I could attach the throttle cable. And already there is a good turn and snap back action.



I've also done the same to the left. New switch, lever and clutch mount, with the cable attached. Again I'm getting a good action at the lever, but I know it needs proper adjustment and positioning.



The original airbox has been cleaned up and polished to bring the nice black colour back to it. I also have a new filter and sealing rubber. But there was no rubber originally and a test fitting did not go well. Might have another go later.



But for now the airbox is on. I think I have the rubber tubes in correctly, though I do need some replacement clamps for the rubber to carb mount.



I've not oiled the filter yet as I will need to remove the box and carbs for mounting bolt replacement and new clamps. But this photo does have the correct routing of the cables.



And with the airbox lid on, the bike looks a lot closer to being ridden. But it is still a little way off, the exhausts for example are not actually on the bike at the moment...

Paul

Nice work
Yambits sell oil pipes. Clear so you can check pump action initially. Then you always have a visual.
the twins:-
TZR250 3xv
TZ250 4DP2

Tom Mac

Quote from: squirrel_hunter on February 02, 2014, 02:47:03 AM



At the same time I put the brake switch in (on the second attempt, thankfully I had a reference picture as I was way out on length for adjustment). But I have no idea what the little tab and hole is for which can be seen directly in line with the exhaust bolt and the end of the switch?

The "tab" is for the rear brake lever return spring which runs parallel to the brake light connection spring and hooks around the same "bar" that protrudes inwards from the rear brake pedal.

stevewr250

Hi squirrel hunter your doing a great job. If you use a soft wire or copper wire brush on the rest of your rear brake lever it will get rid of the remaining yellow stain ;)
I found when I rebuilt my 3xv that there was nothing better than the feeling you get when you start putting all the new bits on and working with clean new stuff so I'm happy for you.if your not happy with your paint stripping results I can bead blast for you at no cost except your postage ;)
I've been meaning to ask for over 12 months do you actually hunt squirrels? ???
We just shoot the little fuckers off the garden fence >:D

Paul

Quote from: stevewr250 on February 02, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
I've been meaning to ask for over 12 months do you actually hunt squirrels? ???
We just shoot the little fuckers off the garden fence >:D

hahaha, i thought the name refered to "panty squirrels" those nice little fluffy creatures.
the twins:-
TZR250 3xv
TZ250 4DP2

squirrel_hunter

Quote from: Paul on February 02, 2014, 05:58:50 AM
Yambits sell oil pipes. Clear so you can check pump action initially. Then you always have a visual.

Good point, thanks. I think I may have actually ordered some as well...

Quote from: Tom Mac on February 02, 2014, 12:01:37 PM
The "tab" is for the rear brake lever return spring which runs parallel to the brake light connection spring and hooks around the same "bar" that protrudes inwards from the rear brake pedal.

I thought it was something like that but I don't remember taking anything off of there and I can't see anything listed in the parts manual. At the moment the rear brake is empty but the peddle does spring back nicely. Have you got a pic or anything of the setup?

Quote from: stevewr250 on February 02, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
If you use a soft wire or copper wire brush on the rest of your rear brake lever it will get rid of the remaining yellow stain ;)

Will give that a go, thanks.

Quote from: stevewr250 on February 02, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
if your not happy with your paint stripping results I can bead blast for you at no cost except your postage ;)

Thanks for the offer will see how it goes.

Quote from: stevewr250 on February 02, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
I've been meaning to ask for over 12 months do you actually hunt squirrels? ???
We just shoot the little fuckers off the garden fence >:D

Nope. The name has long lost its original meaning over the years. I actually answer to Squirrel in real life.

Quote from: Paul on February 02, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
hahaha, i thought the name refered to "panty squirrels" those nice little fluffy creatures.

Well that was an interesting 5 minutes on google...

jcsnook

Impressive work Squirrel!  Love the attention to detail, keep the pix coming!
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!