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Looking at buying 3XV2

Started by busa1300, June 18, 2019, 02:01:17 AM

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SeaR1ck

The plating around the exhaust ports looks like it's worn down to the point of needing a replate. The coloring in the picture it looks lighter than the rest of the cylinder wall that doesn't look as worn down.

busa1300

It will get all new bottom and top end when I pull it all apart for its rebuild. And I will get cylinders sent out as well.
Just trying to get it running now as a complete bike, so I can get a quick feel for it before the snow finds its way here. I have another bike that I was planning on doing a full rebuild on first, but I didn't want the 3XV2 just sitting and not able to be run....needed to see what it needed before throwing more $$$ at it.
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

Steveog

You didn't ask, but I highly recommend Powerseal In Pennsylvania. They did my cylinders. One of them twice. Precision work. Not as expensive as others. 10 day turnaround. A bit less than $400 USD for both cylinders (plating, honing and port chamfering).

Rick may be right, but try to get a bounce light under the cylinder for better imaging and more help from the Forum. What's a bounce light? A solid white surface that reflects a direct light from under the cylinder, giving a softer, more even light helping to analyze the honing grooves.

Of course, you've been down this road and can make your own qualified judgements, but getting help from the experts here sometimes requires more attention to the photography. (Lesson learned by error, error and trial). Your cylinders may be just fine as they are. Good to have back-up opinions, though...some from using and modding these bikes for almost 15 years.

That photography opinion is not directed specifically at you, Busa. Just an opinion from one with a 50 year career in photo/videography. That said, "You've done a great job documenting your build."

Good luck on getting that first ride in before rotten weather strikes. We're in the same state, but often different climates. I'd love to ride NCM this weekend, but...I also dream of 36mm carbs this winter. Can't afford both.

My best.

Steve
Brief, fleeting Glory. Which of itself cannot last, but while it does is the best game of all.

busa1300

 (-P)
My phone camera burnt out after it went in the washer still in my pants pocket many months ago.
Just started using a 15 year old Sony camera that I found while cleaning out a drawer, as my wife said I can't use her phone anymore (grease and oil)
It works, but pretty ancient as far as focusing/lighting tech goes....

Cylinders....I'll get a better look when engine comes apart and I get them soda blasted.
With the mileage on the bike I should get them redone regardless though....like the crank, even though bearings may be ok....they are ready for replacement I am sure (new crank)

It's a long term keeper, so it will get done right, instead of cutting any corners to save $$$ for some future profit when selling.
Also being done properly means I can hammer on it while I use, it without much concern about making it back home.  :))
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

busa1300

Still waiting on one simple, cheap part to get bike back up and running.
Since I can't do anything on the bike, I figured it was time to try and get a title today.
I think it went OK.....They took my $$$, and I doubt they want to give it back.....so hopefully in about 2 more weeks it will be legal.  C:-)

My concerns were.....
Correct serial number
Correct year
Correct model
Correct mileage

But I think they did it right.  (-P)


Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

busa1300

#110
It's together again.
This time I actually got to ride it more than a mile around the neighboring edition from me. (only 11 kilometers today)
Starts great
Shifts great
Clutch feels good even with the close ratio trans


Runs great, pulls to redline, but has a bit of a hiccup at 7500-8000....then goes on up.
Went through my favorite sharp corner near my house and went faster than I had on any bike so far.....but thought I felt a bit of rear slip.
Probably need to check the dates on the Alphas that are on the bike, look good but could be old by now.
Everything works except turn signals.....but I have the solution to that on it's way.
Only issue I have electrically is the oil light is always on....until I put bike in gear and it goes off like the neutral light...??

Some proof of completion.....

Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

SeaR1ck

Oil light will stay on when in neutral. It's a Yamaha thing it's like a reminder type of deal.

Steveog

Outstanding, Busa. It was a great day for a test ride. You must have busted ass to get your bike ready to ride. Impressive.

Glad you discovered the beauty of the 3xv before wet leaves F'd up our roads. It's handling is telepathic. It gets even better with the suspension dialed in. Hard to believe?

Yes, new tyres would be good if your's are feeling a bit "loose" on the street. I like Dunlop's (Q-3+), but Phil M. raves about Continentals...for the track. Others will offer their options. ybk loves Bridgestones. Seems that great chassis works with just about any top grade rubber.

That oil light reaction seems to be normal. Sort of a safety check. If the light doesn't go off when kicking it into gear, time to stop and check the oil tank.

Tomorrow could be the last "summer day" of 2019. I'm going to button up my 3xv and "warm it up". Hope you get a chance to ride.

Steve
Brief, fleeting Glory. Which of itself cannot last, but while it does is the best game of all.

busa1300

#113
 (-P)
Thanks for the info guys....glad it's a normal thing with the oil light.
Doubt I will do much more to the bike, other than get new brake lines, pads, and rebuild the calipers and masters.
Keep it in one piece and running, while collecting parts for rebuild....(3XV-80+SPR complete airboxes) take care of bodywork....get it out on the road for people to see.

Weather....cold today but dry
No riding Saturday, going to take my granddaughter to an IFly center in Chicago for indoor skydiving for her birthday (high of 67)
But Sunday looks like a good day (high of 65) to get some more kilometers on the TZR before I drain the carbs for the season.

Keep em smoking as much as possible  ;D

Thanks for everyone's input up to this point.
It makes a world of difference when I can usually find my answers just by asking  (-P)
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

busa1300

Rode another 30 kilometers today.....not much I know, but I didn't want to get too far from home.
Still runs good....but at one point I had come to a stop, and noticed a large amount of smoke coming from the right side pipe...(wind going off to that side)
Initially thought my crank seal had let go, so I started heading home......but when I got to the next stop, the smoke had stopped....
Thinking that the pipes had a lot of crap in them, and they finally got warm enough to burn some of it out.
Checked trans oil level, and had not changed so.....I'll keep and eye on that issue.
I do have some oil leaking from my rear shock though...so, that will need a rebuild when everything else is getting worked over next year.  :(
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

ybk

#115
Yeah long rides can do that to the carbon in the pipes, usually then the smoke just kind of 'seeps' out the back.

Did you get the last round of SPR airboxes on yahoo? I see there's also a -80 and -70 on there now

busa1300

#116
I'll take it out hopefully tomorrow for probably the last ride of the season, and burn off some more....getting cold/rain.
I have a home project to finish that has been put off too long....no more time for play....

I talked to Naomi/Spongebob/Miyabee and her crew at the Barber vintage festival about parts, and she hooked me up with a connection
Scotty hooked me up with the -80
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

busa1300

Early Christmas present came today....for the 3XV  ;D

They go together like chocolate and peanut butter.... 8)

Plugged it in and powervalves and lights work, and it started right up.....all good signs
Just need a set of SPR airboxes and I'll be ready to start the tuning process next year....don't want to cut up the original SP airboxes.
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

Steveog

Always a joy when stuff work as its supposed too, yes? Good way to start your weekend.

If the SPR upper air-box allows more air flow, do you plan to open up the manifold boots, too. Maybe, I don't understand the SPR mod.

Steve
Brief, fleeting Glory. Which of itself cannot last, but while it does is the best game of all.

busa1300

Here is a SPR airbox intake.... just one huge hole compared to the SP version....box itself are the same I believe.

not my bike.....from a Japanese blog
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs