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3XV1 - It had to start some time!

Started by AndyYam, May 24, 2020, 08:16:52 PM

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thump566

Quote from: AndyYam on June 02, 2020, 08:40:54 PM
Quote from: thump566 on May 28, 2020, 09:14:24 PM
Not sure if you have discovered the manuals on the forum, if you can upload some diagrams showing which brackets you are referring to it would help identifying them  (-P)

http://pure2strokespirit.net/redandblueftp/download/3XV/index.php

Regarding the rear fairing bracket - are you referring to the number 3 in the attached image? If so, Bulldogboy had some copies made (originals are now NLA), they are not identical but more than adequate as they are not load bearing as such, only stopping the bodywork to flap. I have a spare if its the one you are missing which I can send?

Can just make out an original bracket example in second image just below the bear linkage if that's which you are referring to?

I have indeed. My photo uploads would have helped but the bloody things wouldnt work.

Yes 3, 24 and 26 appear to be missing. I still have a suspision that a box or parts must be somewhere and I havt found it. The bike in pieces moved around my rented garage a number of times as i tried to cram more stuff in. I feel like I've checked everywhere but I've done that before and been wrong.

If you do have one that would be great, just let me know how much i owe you. Ironically, I don't have that section of fairing to bolt to as thats the bit thats snapped off, but my marlboro fairings will presumably have th same mounting point, give or take a foot  ;)

Andy, PM your address and I'll send a repro bracket number 3 in diagram. Given the bracket only prevents the fairing flapping at that point, some of the members fabricate something of their own as the original is NLA. This copy is not identical but they should certainly do the job in the absence of the Yamaha part.
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AndyYam

Steve and Thump, pm sent to both. Very grateful!

I'm keeping an eye on yahoo auctions japan for the others but am a bit unsure how it all works. If aynone has experience it would be welcomed.

I've managed to source a rear light unit which was from the 93 4FL 125 but the lens is the same, possibly the whole unit. It doesnt have the large rubber step type thing but then neither does my current one. What was/is this for?

Warwick

The foam rubber thing just provides a kind of fill for the void above the tail light in the tail fairing. You'll be fine without it.
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bulldogboy

#33
Go to yahoo auctions, there will be tab at the top entitled "Buyee" you need to sign  up and link a PayPal account and fill out your details, Buyee, then acts as an intermediary, it translates the pages you view on yahoo auctions.When you bid and win an item the seller then sends the item to the Buyee warehouse, they then wrap it for international postage and foward it to you for a fee.They will not send things like tanks, carbs, some engine parts. There are other intermediary companys, Rinkya is another and will send stuff Buyee won't, as they use Fedex, and they alow you to mark down the value of your item at checkout which reduces postage costs and import duties.Things which seem cheap can suddenly get not so cheap after sale fee, packing, shipping and import duties.Be warned sourcing spares can become addictive! :o

AndyYam

Quote from: Warwick on June 09, 2020, 10:57:23 PM
The foam rubber thing just provides a kind of fill for the void above the tail light in the tail fairing. You'll be fine without it.

ah thanks Warwick. I'm sure I can get something to fill if needed then. phew.

AndyYam

Quote from: bulldogboy on June 10, 2020, 12:15:00 AM
Go to yahoo auctions, there will be tab at the top entitled "Buyee" you need to sign  up and link a PayPal account and fill out your details, Buyee, then acts as an intermediary, it translates the pages you view on yahoo auctions.When you bid and win an item the seller then sends the item to the Buyee warehouse, they then wrap it for international postage and foward it to you for a fee.They will not send things like tanks, carbs, some engine parts. There are other intermediary companys, Rinkya is another and will send stuff Buyee won't, as they use Fedex, and they alow you to mark down the value of your item at checkout which reduces postage costs and import duties.Things which seem cheap can suddenly get not so cheap after sale fee, packing, shipping and import duties.Be warned sourcing spares can become addictive! :o

Thanks Bulldog! I'll give it a shot then. I've ordered parts from the states before and got hit for £8 plus 20% of the value on arrival so I'm guessing it'll be the same sort of figures I should account for when working out the final price. I'm so used to ebay UK where you can get an item in a few days for under a tenner. Paying 100-150 quid for a set of bolts and brackets hurts!

I just got through one the brackets that you had made up Bulldog. Thump had a spare and kindly sent me one FOC. A huge thank you to both of you. Kudos for getting them made up!

bulldogboy

No worries mate, glad the bracket helped you out, just had them made up as an experiment really, getting a price for some chain slider kits , if they're cheap enough might get some printed off , if they're not too expensive.

James P

Quote from: AndyYam on June 12, 2020, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: bulldogboy on June 10, 2020, 12:15:00 AM
Go to yahoo auctions, there will be tab at the top entitled "Buyee" you need to sign  up and link a PayPal account and fill out your details, Buyee, then acts as an intermediary, it translates the pages you view on yahoo auctions.When you bid and win an item the seller then sends the item to the Buyee warehouse, they then wrap it for international postage and foward it to you for a fee.They will not send things like tanks, carbs, some engine parts. There are other intermediary companys, Rinkya is another and will send stuff Buyee won't, as they use Fedex, and they alow you to mark down the value of your item at checkout which reduces postage costs and import duties.Things which seem cheap can suddenly get not so cheap after sale fee, packing, shipping and import duties.Be warned sourcing spares can become addictive! :o

Thanks Bulldog! I'll give it a shot then.

Andy,

I'm not sure whether this applies to Buyee, but beware of some agents who will let you bid on, win and pay for items...only to tell you that they won't send them due to postage restrictions! You are then left with the choice of having the items sent to someone else in Japan or (more likely) disposed of by the agent...and you won't get a refund.

I have used Japamart for quite a few years - they won't let you bid on anything they won't send. Annoyingly, their list of 'prohibited items' has grown in recent years but I have had reasonably good service. They will still send things like bodywork, chassis parts (no shock absorbers!), electrical parts etc.
I also use Rinkya, which will send just about anything (including fuel tanks, shock absorbers, forks, complete engines...but no complete bikes!) - the more 'sensitive' items are sent via FedEx.

Regards,
James

mellorp

There is a guy on FB that lives in Japan and will bid/post to you outside of Japan. You can confirm with him before bidding, if he will post it

https://www.facebook.com/groups/864644910638795/
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jools

Be wary of DHL costs from Japan,

I had to sell a third kidney just to get my wiring loom into Oz  :o

Could be just the agents, I think I'll change from Japamart - on a US$ 40 part they added near US$30 in fees tax, local postage and charges, and our exchange rate is shite.
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AndyYam

Quote from: bulldogboy on June 12, 2020, 08:18:13 PM
No worries mate, glad the bracket helped you out, just had them made up as an experiment really, getting a price for some chain slider kits , if they're cheap enough might get some printed off , if they're not too expensive.

That sounds like a great idea. I started looking into whether they are the sort of thing 3d printers can do. I did read something about the type of matrial to use but I can't find the notes I made. I guess having a good one for dimensions would be a part of the problem.

AndyYam

James, thanks for the heads up. I've still not bitten the bullet as a few of the bits I needed the chaps on here have been able to send me. Theres a couple of joblots of bolts/brackets that have the remaining (i think) but the price is £100 and I'd only use 2-3 of the items! If by the time I'm desperate I'll go for them and can hand out the other bits in the future to those in need on here.




Cheer's Mellorp I'll take a look, might be a more comfortable way to go about it.




jools, thats good to know. Will be carefuly of that. The handling fees always wind me up. Wish there was a way to prepay the import to avoid the courier charges.

AndyYam

I've not really made any more progress other than sourcing parts and researching to build my knowledge base up.

My order from Fowlers arrived. I basically went through every page of the parts manual and ordered anything that was reasonably priced that I needed. I still need to cross reference with the TSO order that I cancelled as they had some items available that fowlers didnt and vice versa. Photo below :)

Thump has kindly sent me some neoprene he had lying about that I'm hoping to use to make the infill section above the rear light.

My complete rear light from a 4FL arrived and looks good to replace my cracked one.

My coolant bottle has also arrived. I'm still in need of one of the brackets to support ths. The more triangle shaped one, but again it's something I'm sure i can bend out of an alumium sheet as a temp measure.


One interesting thing I found when seaching Youtube was that the Playstation 4 games "Ride 2" and "Ride 3" feature the 1994 TZR250R amongt other 2 strokes. I downloaded it yesterday to have a go but it's going to take my a while to unlock the 3xv. I do have a TZR125R and an RG125F. It's a good bit of fun if anyone has as PS4 but the handling and braking takes a good few races to get used to. Racing a tzr125r round Brands Hatch was fantastic fun though! Can't wait to do it on my bike at the real track.




SouthCoastRich

Quote from: AndyYam on June 16, 2020, 02:09:40 PM
I've not really made any more progress other than sourcing parts and researching to build my knowledge base up.

My order from Fowlers arrived. I basically went through every page of the parts manual and ordered anything that was reasonably priced that I needed. I still need to cross reference with the TSO order that I cancelled as they had some items available that fowlers didnt and vice versa. Photo below :)

Thump has kindly sent me some neoprene he had lying about that I'm hoping to use to make the infill section above the rear light.

My complete rear light from a 4FL arrived and looks good to replace my cracked one.

My coolant bottle has also arrived. I'm still in need of one of the brackets to support ths. The more triangle shaped one, but again it's something I'm sure i can bend out of an alumium sheet as a temp measure.


One interesting thing I found when seaching Youtube was that the Playstation 4 games "Ride 2" and "Ride 3" feature the 1994 TZR250R amongt other 2 strokes. I downloaded it yesterday to have a go but it's going to take my a while to unlock the 3xv. I do have a TZR125R and an RG125F. It's a good bit of fun if anyone has as PS4 but the handling and braking takes a good few races to get used to. Racing a tzr125r round Brands Hatch was fantastic fun though! Can't wait to do it on my bike at the real track.

That's a huge stack of presents! Nice one. The parts list in resources should tally with TSO by the way, worth double checking but agreed I find TSO a bit easier to navigate.

If you get stuck on the rear fairing give Yan a shout - he did a great job for my bike. http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?topic=6725.0

PS Don't trail the brakes on a track like Ride lets you on the PS4 ;)
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Warwick

#44
Just seen the (earlier) pics. I'm not sure that your rad is actually a 3XV rad? It should have a hoop-and-grommet type fitting like the ones used for the top mounting that lines up with the 6mm bolt hole in the end of the coil bracket.  Not necessarily a problem if the rad is more or less the same size as the 3XV one, but it might impact on the hose fitment etc. too if it's from a different bike?
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