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SUGO CDI for Borut... (ignition curves)

Started by 41juergen, March 25, 2013, 04:24:36 PM

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Yuri

I do not know why but it is not showing the compleat grath

Paul

#121
now how close is this?

im ashamed to say i have tried to add it but my xls skills are crap
this would settle quite a lot of debates or at least give people the confidence to use a prog instead of a 25 year old black box
what would be really interesting is comparing a duplicated sugo with a prog and comparing dyno readouts, my bet is you would have better power copying a sugo than using one, then of course you could fine tune it and get an even more suited ign map and PV map
the twins:-
TZR250 3xv
TZ250 4DP2

ybk

#122
The info is very nicely put together Jurgen!  8) Interesting, so the 7K has slightly less advance on average, probably to compensate for the unleaded ?

So anybody else want to send their sugo CDI's to Jurgen so we can get a complete set? ;D

Yuri, my graph is displaying OK on the desktop excel, you're on mobile excel?.

Yuri

Quote from: ybk on May 14, 2015, 07:54:19 AM
The info is very nicely put together Jurgen!  8) Interesting, so the 7K has slightly less advance on average, probably to compensate for the unleaded ?

So anybody else want to send their sugo CDI's to Jurgen so we can get a complete set? ;D

Yuri, my graph is displaying OK on the desktop excel, you're on mobile excel?.

Yes I will update my app

Yuri

Quote from: Warwick on April 12, 2015, 10:50:25 PM
This looks like a really interesting project Jeurgen! I don't currently have an -80 box but have a -70 box I could send over for examination. But as we are coming to the summer we'd need to arrange a fairly quick turnaround so that it's not away for too long. How long do you need them for to read them?

Are you going to send your box ?

ybk

Interesting also how the power valves open later and more abruptly on the sugo's than on the other CDI's. Could be a sugo thing or just that all the other CDI's are for barrel type and not guilotine..


Paul

Ja Karl. The guillotine only really does anything when it's closed or open. No benefit for "rolling" it on. I tried on the dyno and it made bugger all difference to the power curve.
the twins:-
TZR250 3xv
TZ250 4DP2

Neal

Guys , I'll have my 75 unit available very shortly . My nsr is "ready" for the next race meeting .

I am very keen to see what the curve looks like as I have a ignitech that will be used , if I can't work it out I'll get a zeel .

There goes my resale value of my sugo box  ::)
unofficial lap record holder --- to be corrected one day !

Yuri

Quote from: Neal on May 14, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
Guys , I'll have my 75 unit available very shortly . My nsr is "ready" for the next race meeting .

I am very keen to see what the curve looks like as I have a ignitech that will be used , if I can't work it out I'll get a zeel .

There goes my resale value of my sugo box  ::)
A zeel cost more than a Sugo CDI

jcsnook

Quote from: Yuri on May 14, 2015, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: Warwick on April 12, 2015, 10:50:25 PM
This looks like a really interesting project Jeurgen! I don't currently have an -80 box but have a -70 box I could send over for examination. But as we are coming to the summer we'd need to arrange a fairly quick turnaround so that it's not away for too long. How long do you need them for to read them?

Are you going to send your box ?

I have a spare -70/-80 box I can send if you you need one to test/compare.  Can't remember which, but I think they are both pretty much the same.

Like Warwick, I'd like to get it back fairly quickly.  I have a local mate that (I hope) wants to buy it for his bike.
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!

Yuri

Quote from: jcsnook on May 14, 2015, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Yuri on May 14, 2015, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: Warwick on April 12, 2015, 10:50:25 PM
This looks like a really interesting project Jeurgen! I don't currently have an -80 box but have a -70 box I could send over for examination. But as we are coming to the summer we'd need to arrange a fairly quick turnaround so that it's not away for too long. How long do you need them for to read them?

Are you going to send your box ?

I have a spare -70/-80 box I can send if you you need one to test/compare.  Can't remember which, but I think they are both pretty much the same.

Like Warwick, I'd like to get it back fairly quickly.  I have a local mate that (I hope) wants to buy it for his bike.
It will be nice to see every CDI mapped !

ybk

A drum type sugo cdi would be nice to compare to the ones done so far!

jcsnook

OK...can you PM me shipping info?
If your not mixing gas, your not hauling ass!

Yuri

I have send you Juergen's shipping address 

Neal

Quote from: Yuri on May 14, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
Quote from: Neal on May 14, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
Guys , I'll have my 75 unit available very shortly . My nsr is "ready" for the next race meeting .

I am very keen to see what the curve looks like as I have a ignitech that will be used , if I can't work it out I'll get a zeel .

There goes my resale value of my sugo box  ::)
A zeel cost more than a Sugo CDI

Can't be more than the $500 purchase price plus shipping , agents fees and import fees !
unofficial lap record holder --- to be corrected one day !