Derestricting my TZR 250 3XV RS

[Steveog]

Andy - Great tip. Bruised, cracked and broken ribs are all too familiar for those of us on two wheels. The pain can be among most memorable, as it may occur with every breath.

Rich - Sorry I didn't get the pics, but after seeing your damage, welding up a solution might work better than my drill/tap/bolt idea.

Good luck.

Steve

[SouthCoastRich]

Pressure on above your upper lip just under the nose can prevent you from sneezing. Sounds mad but I used it alot when I had pulled intercostal muscles. Facing down whilst you do that also helps.

EDIT: Just to add that I've been chatting to Rich on WhatsApp recently so not glossing over the incident in some cold hearted way 

This I will try! Hayfever season is quite annoying right now. Thanks Andy 

Andy - Great tip. Bruised, cracked and broken ribs are all too familiar for those of us on two wheels. The pain can be among most memorable, as it may occur with every breath.

Rich - Sorry I didn't get the pics, but after seeing your damage, welding up a solution might work better than my drill/tap/bolt idea.

Good luck.

Steve

Your initial idea may still work Steve - I found the lug on the garage floor after tidying up !!!! I'll take the front cage off and post some pics! Thanks!

[SouthCoastRich]

Took the bits to Maidstone Motorliner and they said;

Front wheel BENT
Front disc BENT
Yokes BENT
Both forks BENT
(Forgot to ask about the front spindle, but they have that too)

They seemed confident they get everything straight but I guess the question is - if anything gets cracked while being straightened, which is a goodness knows thing. I'm pretty certain they are the best place for whatever success can be made.

While not being able to ride, I'm playing with cameras and editing to keep me amused, and here's the TZR coming apart and going to Maidstone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNdPSuPMujw

[mellorp]

As an aside to the bike, I had an off at Oulton Park. My riding kit was a bit old. I decided rather than broken and bruised body parts I bought some very expensive gloves (eye wateringly expensive) an airbag 1 piece race suit and an air bag road jacket. My thinking is I'd buy an SP crank for £1,000 at the drop of a hat, so I needed to spend proportionally on my personal protection.
At 62, I don't bounce like I did when I was 18. In fact I don't bounce as well as when I was 50. I even creak getting off the sofa !!!!

[SouthCoastRich]

As an aside to the bike, I had an off at Oulton Park. My riding kit was a bit old. I decided rather than broken and bruised body parts I bought some very expensive gloves (eye wateringly expensive) an airbag 1 piece race suit and an air bag road jacket. My thinking is I'd buy an SP crank for £1,000 at the drop of a hat, so I needed to spend proportionally on my personal protection.
At 62, I don't bounce like I did when I was 18. In fact I don't bounce as well as when I was 50. I even creak getting off the sofa !!!!

You're spot on Phil. An airbag suit may have saved my ribs. Best we use our years to choose wisely about what we take from the past (2 strokes) and what we choose from the present (airbags, tyres etc)

I did a day at Ron Haslams race school - and my boys criticised my 90's high torso style, despite laying waste to knee sliders left and right. My thoughts were "If I hang off, I might never get back on"

[rz500guy]

Sorry about all the parts. Welding the tab is proper way. Make some wooden v blocks to check the forks yourself. I would think as long as you have a good flat surface. We all do not have a 4 foot steel surface that was machined. It will at least give you an idea of how the parts are. A cheap dial gauge holder and gauge will be used for other thing. Wheel will be easy to fix.

And to agree with Mellorp, gear, gear, gear. I am going to keep racing until I feel unsafe to my fellow riders and I decided gear is cheap. It is the other parts of the body such as muscles and things I think about. Some ligaments can be a bother forever. I see too many street riders with nothing on and I mean helmets or  boots. Especially the bad ass Harley cruiser riders. My last crash if air bag would of deployed would of left me with a bruised pinky and little toe. By my end of month for next race I will have 2 Tech Ten air bag suits in case of a failure, I use a Taichi suit and their best gloves, Gaerne boot with a set of Alpinestar GP tech boot as backup, and a Bell Carbon Fiber helmet with triple layer impact protection. The Taichi gloves are going to the my repair place to have the little pinky sewed to adjoining finger. I have had numerous incident but walk away each time. Most any incident on the street with improper gear never ends well. SOAP BOX OVER

[SouthCoastRich]

Sorry about all the parts. Welding the tab is proper way. Make some wooden v blocks to check the forks yourself. I would think as long as you have a good flat surface. We all do not have a 4 foot steel surface that was machined. It will at least give you an idea of how the parts are. A cheap dial gauge holder and gauge will be used for other thing. Wheel will be easy to fix.

And to agree with Mellorp, gear, gear, gear. I am going to keep racing until I feel unsafe to my fellow riders and I decided gear is cheap. It is the other parts of the body such as muscles and things I think about. Some ligaments can be a bother forever. I see too many street riders with nothing on and I mean helmets or  boots. Especially the bad ass Harley cruiser riders. My last crash if air bag would of deployed would of left me with a bruised pinky and little toe. By my end of month for next race I will have 2 Tech Ten air bag suits in case of a failure, I use a Taichi suit and their best gloves, Gaerne boot with a set of Alpinestar GP tech boot as backup, and a Bell Carbon Fiber helmet with triple layer impact protection. The Taichi gloves are going to the my repair place to have the little pinky sewed to adjoining finger. I have had numerous incident but walk away each time. Most any incident on the street with improper gear never ends well. SOAP BOX OVER

Soap box welcome! We worry about NLA parts but the rider is the most valuable NLA part 

[rz500guy]

Like it.

[SouthCoastRich]

I just want to run this by you guys. I'm not doing anything yet. The broken lug has been ripped and torn off the frame. It's not a good fit anymore. I have two schools of thought.

Plan A) - Clean all the lug and frame up with acetone and JB Weld the lug back on. Leave it a week then hit it with a hammer and see if it falls off.

Plan B) - Drill and tap the lower instrument cage mount from below parallel with the headstock. Tap it and use an M6 insert in there. Use the same drill to go through the broken lug. Use a machine screw, as a bolt, to bolt the lug to the frame. Red Loctite / Fill up everything with JB Weld.

[Warwick]

Personally I'd go for Plan C.  Get the frame checked over properly first. If it's not bent, have the lockstop welded back on properly by a pro - not sure what a MOT man would make of a bodged on lockstop? If it is bent, investigate the possibility of straightening before considering anything else. 

[SouthCoastRich]

Personally I'd go for Plan C.  Get the frame checked over properly first. If it's not bent, have the lockstop welded back on properly by a pro - not sure what a MOT man would make of a bodged on lockstop? If it is bent, investigate the possibility of straightening before considering anything else. 

Right - Getting the frame checked today. 

I'll call round the mobile welders if all checks out (no point doing that if I need to move the carcass to a shop to be straightened)

[rz500guy]

Weld it and paint only option. Finish it with a dremel. If the forks are straight and the wheel and disc took the brunt of the hit I would not be greatly concerned with the frame. That little stop looked fragile anyway. Did the forks or bars hit the tank?  You are not going to be circuit racing this so you will never notice even if it is tweaked. Here in the US I know of one shop on the east coast that checks frames. You have to schedules weeks out and what if they do not have your bike in their database. I guess they just compare one side to another. You have more race teams closer to you so you might have options but that is a special piece of equipment and some expertise to check a frame. Then what do you do if it a little tweaked, trash it? Many a bike has had the same type crash and they are repaired and rode into the sunset. Fix it and enjoy it.

[ybk]

What direction was the impact to the bike? Have you inspected all the various welds on the frame for a potential crack? That might save you time before having someone measure it?

[rz500guy]

Sound like the wheel took a glancing blow on the curb. Heal up and get on with the repairs. By the way my 3MA is heading to California today

[SouthCoastRich]

Easiest to show than explain...

Here's a video of the crash - https://youtu.be/Kfgx_rPaYH8