TZR Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: casal-fan on September 01, 2012, 02:32:38 PM
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Hello!
New member here, after I heard the awfull news that explained why the other forum was down.
I must say this is already a great forum. The adition of the "old-old" forum files is superb for guys like me wich just joined the TZR scene, and to who the tzr still is a "secret" piece of machinery.
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Welcome, post some pics up of your bike when you can :D
I'll sticky this topic so we can have all the hello's and welcomes in one place 8)
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I registered on Skip's old forum, just before it went down, so never got the opportunity to post anything, not that I'm much of a conversationalist though ::)
I've currently got a 3MA and a 3XV, and I hope I don't have any reasons to post bad news on them very often! :)
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Hello.
Just purchased my first TZR(not many here in the USA). I have liked the look of the 3ma since it came out in 1989 with the tail pipes coming out from under the seat and the aluminium Deltabox chassis. I couldn't get a TZR when I got my motorcycle license so I got a 1985 RZ350 KR in 1991. Even though I have had a few four stroke sportbikes(currently 2003 R1), I just couldn't let the little RZ go. It sat for over 14 years without being ridden as I rode the R1 and finally last year was its coming back party. I have forgotten how much fun a little 2stroke was. One thing always bothered me though... the RZs chassis. It is a noodle compared to anything modern so I jumped at the TZR 3ma when I found one for sale with a title(no bullcrap at the DMV). So now I have one of the bikes I have been lusting after since I was a teenager.
Great forum and I hope it can help me with my mistress :)
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Hello
actually missed this bit and posted before saying hello....
I was on the old tzr forum and heard the news about skip at squires last weekend.
top forum, hope i'll be able to help out.
snittle(james)
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Hello.
Just purchased my first TZR(not many here in the USA). I have liked the look of the 3ma since it came out in 1989 with the tail pipes coming out from under the seat and the aluminium Deltabox chassis. I couldn't get a TZR when I got my motorcycle license so I got a 1985 RZ350 KR in 1991. Even though I have had a few four stroke sportbikes(currently 2003 R1), I just couldn't let the little RZ go. It sat for over 14 years without being ridden as I rode the R1 and finally last year was its coming back party. I have forgotten how much fun a little 2stroke was. One thing always bothered me though... the RZs chassis. It is a noodle compared to anything modern so I jumped at the TZR 3ma when I found one for sale with a title(no bullcrap at the DMV). So now I have one of the bikes I have been lusting after since I was a teenager.
Great forum and I hope it can help me with my mistress :)
kr-rz350,
Where in the US are you? Adding your location to your profile would help 8) There are a few TZR's around me here in Florida, I've got a 3XV and a MC21 NSR. I know some buddies with 3MA's, 3XV's, RGV's, RZ's, etc. We all like to leave our carbon footprint! ::)
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I'm back too, it was not possible to find it via google. But a guy on a 2 stroke meeting last weekend helped me... :)
May be can something been added in the "home" page to get accessed via Google?
Juergen
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Howzit Juergen. Welcome back.
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I'm back too, it was not possible to find it via google. But a guy on a 2 stroke meeting last weekend helped me... :)
May be can something been added in the "home" page to get accessed via Google?
Juergen
Welcome back :)
I've made a few tweaks and googling 'tzr forum' we come up on the first page now (we were on the 3rd page or so, google is quite fickle so hopefully it stays there :) )
Will add a more substantial frontpage when I have some time 8)
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I have been browsing certain parts of the old archive, noticed alot of members we dont see now.
Is it not possible to send them a mail or something, or are the contact details not part of the backup's or archive?
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Hi I'm Mickey from the old TZR250.com and Skips forum before it went offline,hopefully this forum will keep going..just like our bikes :D
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If you search for "TZR Forum" we are now fifth on the first page of Google search results.
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That's cool, so lets see how many guys we can get back... :D
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Howzit Mickey
Good to see this site is being found, I am dead chuffed as it is proving more reliable than ash's, remember the hackers and poor old skips.
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Ash's site was a good and informative,friggin spammers and hackers ruined it.Was totally shocked to find out about poor Skip,a loss to his family and friends and to us who got to know him from his forum...I found his FB page but nothing mentioned on there..
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Ello all
Just found this site, this will be the 4th TZR forum I have joined since neils a long time ago...
Hope all you old fellas are doing ok
Andy
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4th is the charm :D
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy199/K_Dee/DSC05259.jpg)
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hi all, been member for a few weeks now, about time i say hello, and share a picture of the family.
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When I was 15 or so I used to walk past a blue and yellow TZR250 and it looked so sexy. This guys bike was one of the things that got me into bikes.
Your bikes are lovely, one of each, very very jealous :'( ;D.
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Thank you for the compliment, if only I could sort out the 3ma5, I would be a happy man.
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New member from New Zealand.
I was on the old TZR forum, but unsure what happened to it. It just seemed to go offline.
Joined here and currently rebuilding and improving my 3XV. I've owned 3 modified Suzuki RGVs in the past, but looking to improve on them with the TZR. Planning to convert it to a 500 in 2 or 3 years, but will enjoy it as a 250 while I source parts for that.
Small photo of bike attached. Lots of work about to happen. Looking forward to riding it around NZ when finished.
Happy to share info too and always keen to get advice from more knowledgeable people :)
Happy riding,
Murray
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@ Russwel28
Great TZR collection there!
What's wrong with the 3MA ? mainly curious...
and are you running USD forks on that?
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@ Russwel28
and are you running USD forks on that?
3MA3/4 and 5 (5 in Russwel28 case) ran usd forks as standard, only 1989 3MA1/2 used rwu forks.
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@ Russwel28
and are you running USD forks on that?
3MA3/4 and 5 (5 in Russwel28 case) ran usd forks as standard, only 1989 3MA1/2 used rwu forks.
Thanks for the info. It looks nice with USD forks!
I've only seen the 3MA1 and 3MA2 models in NZL.
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Hi Muz_j
Glad you like them, as bobby boy said the 3ma 3 and 5 both had upside down forks, they were the later forks used on the 3xv, I think never really checked.
As far as the problems, check out my post in the 3ma section and read the whole story, seem to be getting to the bottom of the problem now, with the help of the guys on this forum, the are all true gents.
But do yourself a favour and stick with the 3xv, because the 3ma will end up ruling your bloody life, it is a true problem child, who likes spitting her dummy out of the pram every bleeding chance she gets, but saying that when she runs right for that brief moment, she is the best bike in the world to ride.
Cheers,
Russ
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Nice to see we now have over a 100 members :)!
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Hi again guys. Sorry to hear about Skip and the old forum but good to see it here, rejuvenated :).
I managed to buy a 3MA1 recently and she is indeed proving to be a fickle mistress!
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Hi again guys. Sorry to hear about Skip and the old forum but good to see it here, rejuvenated :).
I managed to buy a 3MA1 recently and she is indeed proving to be a fickle mistress!
Hi Leaky...
Got a photo of your bike?
Where abouts are you? i.e. what country?
Regards,
Murray
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YET ANOTHER SITE I'M LOSING THE WILL TO LIVE..........lol
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Hi everyone
This is the first TZR forum i have found, im still trying to figure out how to get a bike back from Japan to go with my TDR250 anyone got any advice on shipping lines ? Loved the look of the 3XV,s for years so im going to go for it. Ive got my eye on this in Japan. Dont ask me for a frame number etc as I have no clue, 9000 od klm,s on clock, its £2600 ish in UK money. Is it an SP guys any clues and is it the one to go for ?
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Howzit
Try using a local shop that does grey imports.
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Have u seen the prices in the UK......... :o
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Dan Gecko http://www.geckomotorcycles.co.uk/ (http://www.geckomotorcycles.co.uk/) used to do shipping Japan, give him a ring (he doesn't really do email) and see if you can reserve a spot in his next box.
As for checking it is an SP the only way is to check the frame, cylinder and head numbers. And the carbs, forks, clutch and rear shock (http://www.yan.org.uk/forums/3xv-model-info.csv (http://www.yan.org.uk/forums/3xv-model-info.csv)). There are lots of bitzas out there. Depends on the year but I think (and could be wrong) that the chain adjusters aren't billet like on the SP and the later RS. The 91/92 SP had silver forks but so did the R (different internals). That one has lost it's indicators and rear pegs so it might have been on the track.
Best of luck getting your dream bike and welcome :)
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OK I see im learning the differences, with only 500 early SP,s then its just a replica, found a few of the RS type over in Japan also with the correct chain tensioners.
Im going to give Wallenius Wilhelmsen a shout for the shipping ive used them to ship cars and bikes from America before.
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Hello, uhm - again for the 2nd, no 3rd.. wait - 4th time.
:lol:
Is this, the latest incarnation of the TZr250 forums???
I hate to ask what happened to the last version? I thought it was set upt o have multiple off-site backups etc?
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Hi RC
You might have gathered already that Skip sadly passed on. Appears he was not well for a little while.
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Hello guys,
Was a regular lurker and occasional poster on the old forums. Recently stumbled across the latest incarnation of the site (Hooray!).
Currently have a 3XV restoration very slowly ticking away in the shed, as well as a 2MY that I am resurrecting as a project to sell on.
Located in Melbourne, for all those Oz members.
Cheers
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Welcome :) Post up a project thread 8)
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hello all, just joined D forum, have a 1992 3xv4 which is nearly back together from a crank job...i'll put sum pics up soon, so just wanted to put up a post n say hello, cheers
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hello i thought i should say hi..........ive got a 3xv that i bought for $500.00 dollars (aust) thats 3 pennys for the UK guys, it came with a set of jackels & a seazed engine. i got another engine for $200.00 modded a MC18 sprocket to suit had to mod airboxes as they were glued up (i cut them in half & placed aircleaner foam over the top) got it on the road for under a thou........still having trouble with main jets (im up to 260 f & 220 r) but she's getting there. ive wanted one since 1991 as i think the handling is brill. ive since got the other half a 1KT im going to drag kicking & screaming into the 2013
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That's a great paint job on fairing and tank
What are the wheels? Silver? Interesting.
Nice dog to!
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Ya, what's this guys (or girls) name?
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thats geyya (yegger) he was my crew chef, shadow, gym spotter , DB reader (anything over 90 odd DB he'd go up stairs) & main project leader. sadly he was poisoned while i was at work
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G'day!
Decided to buy another 2 smoker and it has to be a 3XV!
Looking forward to trawling the archives and discovering as much as i can without asking too many already covered a million times questions.
Cheers
Chris.
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thats geyya (yegger) he was my crew chef, shadow, gym spotter , DB reader (anything over 90 odd DB he'd go up stairs) & main project leader. sadly he was poisoned while i was at work
No? I just got all welled up reading this. Dogs rule! WTF...who would do such a terrible thing?
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hi all.
I came to look for information of TZR .
regards!
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Konnichiwa Realbuzz-san.
That's a nice looking SPR. Please let your Japanese TZR friends know about us.
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very nice welcome to the forum !
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Nice bike Realbuzz! I like the Jackals! What's the black plug on the fairing?
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Squirrel Hunter reporting for duty.
Was on the previous forums, but when the last one disappeared and with not much going on in my garage it slipped off the radar. However with the project kicking off I needed the manual that I didn't have a local copy of and google pointed me here.
Very sorry to hear of Skips passing.
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did you find the manual ?
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Yep, this (http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?topic=66.0) post links to the file repository.
Now all I need to do is find someone to print me a copy as my work for some silly reason thinks that 2MA manuals don't relate to my job. Shows what they know, my bikes are the only reason I have a job...
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Hahhahaha
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i was a member of the old forum glad i found this place
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Hello fellow TZR brothers,
I don't have a 250 TZR, but I do have her younger sister, the little 125 4fl as a bit of a project. I'll pop some pics up soon.
Glad I found this forum 8)
Rich
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hi all
just want to say hello
i am on the west coast of australia
have 3ma
not to sure how many are on this side but look forward beening involved on the fourm
cheers
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I'm headed for Perth in 2 weeks but my 3xv will be 3 months away . Track only bike so Barbs and Collie will be my playgrounds
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Just a quick hello to you all!
I joined when Skip ran the forum, very sad about what happened!
Not been on here properly , but will try and get on here more often!
I own a 2MA on H plate!, needs a bit of TLC!
Great forum btw! :)
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200 members!
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200 members!
200 plus vat now crank...lol
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Hi so glad the tzr250 site is back up and running,
I have a tzr250r 3xv based on the Isle of Wight in the uk
Anyone on here that is close by me?
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Hello everyone, I'm stationed in Japan and just picked me up an '89 3MA for my first bike ;D. Not sure which version yet, maybe you guys can tell from the pic below? I'm new to the motorcycle scene but I just love how this 3MA look when I first saw it. It has this old skool and aggressive look to it that i really like and thought it'll be great as my first bike. There are a few components that I'd like to swap soon after reading from the forum i.e. converting rear shocks to R6 to begin with cuz I think both the front and rear shocks are really worn out. Anyways I'm glad that I found this very informative forum and hopefully you guys can help me on my way in getting to know my bike a little better.
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/862/tzr2503ma.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/tzr2503ma.jpg/)
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Hi so glad the tzr250 site is back up and running,
I have a tzr250r 3xv based on the Isle of Wight in the uk
Anyone on here that is close by me?
not much riding around there kevin, a small but beautiful island though, had a good holiday there a few years ago
nice to see another TZR owner onboard
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Hello everyone, I'm stationed in Japan and just picked me up an '89 3MA for my first bike ;D. Not sure which version yet, maybe you guys can tell from the pic below? I'm new to the motorcycle scene but I just love how this 3MA look when I first saw it. It has this old skool and aggressive look to it that i really like and thought it'll be great as my first bike. There are a few components that I'd like to swap soon after reading from the forum i.e. converting rear shocks to R6 to begin with cuz I think both the front and rear shocks are really worn out. Anyways I'm glad that I found this very informative forum and hopefully you guys can help me on my way in getting to know my bike a little better.
are you european? only ask as it seems a lot of europeans live there??
you have chosen a really great bike, just be careful as too many are written off and they were only made for 2 years
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Thanks guys! So according to Jakes' link, I guess I got myself a 3MA-1 :P. Also, I just ordered this from ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/380592861123?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 . I can't wait to install it when it arrives.
I'm not European, although you're right, I do see a lot of Europeans here. I'm stationed here in the U.S. Navy, and I do look forward to ship my 3MA back with me at the end of my tour. ;D
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WOW this forum rocks!!! I came here to get some parts for a RD400 that I'm working on.
RD 400 eng
SV 650 frame
VFR 750 swinger
USD TZR forks
I what to do a reversed cylinder RD 400.
Butt now I what a TZR 3MA...
This is what I need now.
All TZR 3MA parts
Pipes
The box that goes on the carb's (I think a trumpet?)
Thanks,
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Nice clean bike...I need to get one now. I'm in the US so it's harder. TZR bike's here are RARE!
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You better believe I'm gonna ship that baby back with me when I go back to the states. Getting it registered is another story though..... :(
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Hey everyone,
Great to see another TZR250 forum up and running...have to say I never realised old forum no longer exists! :'(
Anyway, I have been away for a few years with my 3XV sitting in the garage gathering dust while I've had two kids, half way through an MBA, and a nasty cycling habit! I finally decided to get her running again and thinking about getting a few of my old plans underway again.
Great to see Warwick & Wullie hanging around here... 8)
This is my bike...'91 3XV1 stock engine, brand new RC Sugo chambers/pipes, Ohlins rear shock and few other small mods for the moment.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/kneedown2/TZR250/UpdateJune2010.jpg)
This is my collection of SP odds and sods sitting in boxes...waiting for $$$ and time... ::)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/kneedown2/TZR250/Motivation.jpg)
Will be needing lots of advice/help in time to come. :)
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You better believe I'm gonna ship that baby back with me when I go back to the states. Getting it registered is another story though..... :(
I've gotten both my 3XV and my NSR tagged and titled here in the US Slide, so if you need some help with that, let me know ;)
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This is my collection of SP odds and sods sitting in boxes...waiting for $$$ and time... ::)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/kneedown2/TZR250/Motivation.jpg)
Will be needing lots of advice/help in time to come. :)
Damn KD!! :o You've got some lovely parts there, and a very tidy 3XV! I recall reading some of your old posts from a couple of forums ago. These are the SP parts you've sourced from YJ right? I'll trade some diaper and bicycle money for some of them ;D
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You better believe I'm gonna ship that baby back with me when I go back to the states. Getting it registered is another story though..... :(
I've gotten both my 3XV and my NSR tagged and titled here in the US Slide, so if you need some help with that, let me know ;)
Nice man! I will definitely hit you up, thanks! ;D
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This is my collection of SP odds and sods sitting in boxes...waiting for $$$ and time... ::)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/kneedown2/TZR250/Motivation.jpg)
Will be needing lots of advice/help in time to come. :)
Damn KD!! :o You've got some lovely parts there, and a very tidy 3XV! I recall reading some of your old posts from a couple of forums ago. These are the SP parts you've sourced from YJ right? I'll trade some diaper and bicycle money for some of them ;D
Hahaha...cheers Snook...got a bit carried away with the YJ lottery for a while there. I will eventually get it completed even if it's only in time for my son to ride it! (he's 1½ :D )
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Seems someone on gumtree is selling your bike kneedown :
http://www.gumtree.co.za/cp-motorcycles-scooters-in-wynberg/yamaha-tzr250-3xv-471072033?
... ::)
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Hi All, just found the forum. I used to occasionally venture onto Ash's site under a different usename but not for a very long time!
I have 2ma which was a present to me when I passed my test in 2002. I loved that bike to death! We spent 14thousand happy miles together our first year together & he used to be more than happy to go play with the big boys - frequently! I started riding other bikes - GPZ900, X1 lightning mostly, but my TZR was always there ready to go blasting down the country lanes to put a GRIN on my face! Sadly I made the mistake of lending my beloved bike to my (now) Ex....needless to say it was returned to me in a sorry state having been blown to bits - an oil leak is apparently not a reason to stop riding!?!
I had neither the time, enthusiasm nor money to fix him so he got left much to my shame :(
However, now the time has come and I am desperately keen to get him back on the roads! its a long slow process as hes been left so long but I can smell the 2stroke oil already!
So when searching for parts I came across this forum - If anyone knows of any good condition spares for 2ma i'd definitely be interested. :)
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hi peeps,
I,m tasswipe from the rgv forum,don,t own a tzr yet.
I own a few 23,s and would love a nice tzr 8)
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Hey 2strokers.
Newbie here and currently restoring my 3xv-00( i have no idea if its a sp or r_still finding out...)
Nice forum and will be in touch...
Mad dog
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Hello everyone.
I've had my first bike, a TZR125R 4DL for a little while now but haven't joined any forums until now so I'm hoping this is the place to be for banter, advice and parts ?
Cheers
Darren
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Welcome guys - be sure to post some pics up! 8)
Darren there's a 125 section up now so feel free to join in.
tasswipe - vj23's I assume? Show us some pics, I have a soft spot for them :P
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heres one of them
(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab330/tasswipe/DSC_0324_zps50b1f7a6.jpg)
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hello allan welcome to the forum mate !
which model tzr do you like ?
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not too clued up on them yet,i like the sp models i think they are the prettiest of the strokers.
i particularly like the one thats in a turquoisey blue/green.
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CYAN is the colour alan and it would be the under seat exhaust 3ma model that you like then mate !
i new it would have to be an sp .
ill put up a pic if i find one for you
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ohh ta
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hi guys gary here on here few months and forgot 2 say hello so hello lol O0 i have a 3masp and a 3xv sp mc21sp vj23sp mc28se love the site some verry helpfull people briliant 8)
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feel free to put up any pics of any of them 3xvsp3masp
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hello 2strokers
a friend told me about the forum and i'm very happy to see you all again...
soon(i hope) i will start my rebuild of my 3ma3
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Hello guys ;)
I own a 3XV9 and a 125,3TY... :)
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Welcome guys! :)
Put some pics up in the gallery 8)
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Hello all, owner of a 3xv00 here !
Cheers 8)
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300 Members!
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Not bad for 15 months of existence. It's good to know that there's at least 300 TZRs still out there and loved.
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Hi everyone,
I run a RSVR road bike, and a R6 trackbike.
So youre wondering why im on this forum. Well, I know this might seem a blatant plug, but I (and Russ (MV312 and ZX6)) started a trackday company this year called trackdayevents and wanted to offer your forum members 10% off our upcoming trackday at Cadwell park on the 25th July.
Ive read through some posts and can see that some of your members have been before, so thought it might be of some interest and worth posting.
We are not doing this for a living, but because we love bikes and we love trackdays. Our first track evening at Brands Hatch went down a storm, so thought we would try Cadwell Park.
Im sorry if posting here has offended anyone, just thought I would let you have the code and details and then you can either take up the offer or ignore it. No harm done.
Any questions ill be pleased to answer though.
Cheers
Wayne
www.Trackdayevents.net
Coupon code CP10 on checkout
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Hello again from England,
Good to see this site is operational again. I've been a big fan/owner of Yam strokers for 37 years now owning both aircooled and Power Valve models in the past and at present. My current valve is a TZR250 2MA UK model in Gauloises blue colours. It's in boxes at the moment due to storage constraints although I have started refurbing various sub-assemblies ready for the big day (next summer I hope). :) Current daily rides are a 79 RD250E and a B*W flat twin thingy.
Col
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Newbie from Portugal. Not a owner yet. But 80's yammie boy here.
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Hi!
Just got struck by the 2-stroke love again! Started to buy some nice bikes a couple of years ago.
Found a RD 350 -73, just like the one I had when I was 18!
Now I'm looking around to maybe buy a 3MA or a 3XV. :D
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Welcome guys, you've come to the right place for TZR help :)
Post up pics of the bikes 8)
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Hi everyone,
I am Fanis from Greece, I have been a member of TZR250.com forum but never joined the next. I have been keeping a close eye on this newer incarnation, however I don't have that much to say! The only thing I can really say is that the level of restorations and modifications rises by the hour, nice to see passionate people working on their 2 strokes. I own quite a few 2 strokes, but sadly none in great condition (most are not even running) I own a 3MA-1 which I'll hopefully bring into operational condition till the end of this year! I have never been that much into taking photos, so don't expect me to post something about it. Maybe a video of it running (I wish it will). And besides that, I will be kind of ashamed to show the result, as it's comparison to those shown here will only bring shame to the forum and it's level :D :D :D
Cheers, Fanis
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Hi Fanis and welcome there is nothing to be ashamed of if your trying to keep your 2t alive and there is plenty of very clever and knowledabl people on this site that are prepared to help us out so we can keep our 2ts alive.so good luck with the 3ma and please let us know how you're getting on. We all enjoy it when someone tells us we have another bike up and running ;)
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Thanks Steve, I will try to take some pics of the process, but I don't promise anything! And congrats on the great work you're doing on your 3XV! Top effort mate!
Cheers, Fanis
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Hello fellow 2 stokers! I am a total newbie when it comes to TZRs, having just picked up a 1KT last week. I expect that I will be asking a ton of questions - including some that are probably annoying. I'm not new to 2 stroke street bikes though, I have 6 Kawasaki triples in my garage and 2 KV75 mini bikes. I'll put up a picture or two in the general chat section.
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Hello fellow 2 stokers! I am a total newbie when it comes to TZRs, having just picked up a 1KT last week. I expect that I will be asking a ton of questions - including some that are probably annoying. I'm not new to 2 stroke street bikes though, I have 6 Kawasaki triples in my garage and 2 KV75 mini bikes. I'll put up a picture or two in the general chat section.
Ian, you will find this forum as friendly and helpful as the Kawi Triple forums. A bunch of great knowledgeable guys here always willing to help as needed. None of them with attitudes either :o
Post your pix in the "Other Bikes" section, not "General Chat". That's where they go... ;)
SIX (6) Triples? REALLY? Damn, I didn't know you had that many. A friggin heard of Kaw's. I thought I had a lot!
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Hi all I have just found this site and look pretty good keep up the good work
Mick
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Hi all I have just found this site and look pretty good keep up the good work
Mick
Michael,nice to hear from you,lovely pipes you made for my Aircooled RD250 a couple of years ago,still sounding sweet and many good comments made by others.
To members Abbeytune is better known as Mick Abbey..
http://mickabbeytuning.co.uk/
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Hi all I have just found this site and look pretty good keep up the good work
Mick
Michael,nice to hear from you,lovely pipes you made for my Aircooled RD250 a couple of years ago,still sounding sweet and many good comments made by others.
To members Abbeytune is better known as Mick Abbey..
http://mickabbeytuning.co.uk/
Thanks Mick it's good to here from you and pleased you are happy with the pipes
Mick
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Hi Mick and welcome to the site sorry i am late with a welcome but just seen your post
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400 members!
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Hi everybody, ex-all types owner, my 1KT F3 is current bike.
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Hi everybody, ex-all types owner, my 1KT F3 is current bike.
Excellent. Welcome aboard.
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Welcome! 8) :D
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Welcome to the forum!
Cheers, Fanis
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Hi and welcome hope you will love this forum you will be amazed at the help you get and its great feeling if you can help others ;)
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Welcome TZR1ktF3. Be sure to update your "Location" and "Personal text" to where you live in your profile. You might have someone close who can help etc.
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Thx for the welcome guys, ill update my specs....btw ive got a real short line with japan....
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welcome to he forum pal !
plenty of advice and help on here !
short line to japan could be good as its allways a bugger dealing over there !
Gary
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Yeah it used to be a bugger, just got a 3xv m-max box and 3ma dryclutch baseplate in...:/
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Hello girls ;D
me, it´s booooowlyyyyy !
Two-stroker living at froggys.
Garage: Monobike 500CR, 500CR cross, Diapason 250 CR, 240 TDR (and proto 340 Athena), VJ21 and ... 3MA :P
Forgive my sins (google traductor) ::)
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Hi bowly and welcome you will like it here and happy Christmas
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i think hes been drinking santas brandy !
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Welcome O0
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Hello Bowly! Welcome to the forum! I wouldn't mind getting a glimpse of your garage! :) :) :)
Cheers, Fanis
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Hi L'boule , nice to see you here O0
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Hi bowly and welcome you will like it here and happy Christmas
;D
Just Pouilly and Champagne :D
Hello Bowly! Welcome to the forum! I wouldn't mind getting a glimpse of your garage! :) :) :)
Cheers, Fanis
They are not quite finished ::)
But I am going to find some photos ...
Merry christmas has all :)
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Here Bowly in action...
From Magny Cours 2012 at the RD500LC meeting.
(http://rd500lc.free.fr/MagnyCours2012/JS/original/RD500LC-MC2012-JS_0513.jpg)
(http://rd500lc.free.fr/MagnyCours2012/JS/original/RD500LC-MC2012-JS_0898.jpg)
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Wery nice projeckt bike - welcome
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Found you guys again! I just wanted to say thanks to whoever runs this forum, as I used to lurk in the old (old-old?) TZR forum, and got loads of useful info from there - one day it just wasn't online anymore!
For some weird reason, I was never able to register in the old forum - my chosen names were always rejected :(...
Glad to be in the pipeline again. I'll be posting some photos of my 3XV soon (as soon as I take some good ones), and will request some specific advice from all you TZR freaks!
Thanks again,
Bob Keller (Rok)
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Welcome. It's always good to register/follow http://diffrentstrokers.com/phpBB2/ (http://diffrentstrokers.com/phpBB2/) as this is the "go to" forum if a 2T forum goes down ;)
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Hi Rok and welcome looking forward to seeing your pic's of 3xv and I'm sure you'll get the answers to those questions there really is a load of very talented tzr mad men on here ;)
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Hi guys! great forum! Glad I've finally found a place where there's other tzr nuts hide, lol, I currently have a 3ma which has just been dismantled while I restore her!
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Hi John and welcome.
Please post your re build in projects it will be great to follow the restoration.
You mite not get much response here in saying hi because everyone misses it so just jump in, there is a world of help here and some very talented 3ma lads ;)
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Thanks mate, I'll get some picks uploaded when I get home later, any info is a great help!! Lol
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It's an old pic when I got her but
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/honestjohn_01/tzr250.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/honestjohn_01/media/tzr250.jpg.html)
I'll upload the others I have in the 3ma section
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Hi guys.
New member here.
I have a 3MA. I bought it about 10 years ago...but had some kids and needed to store it for a while.
I have started a project to get it running again...so I'm finding this forum really helpful.
These bikes are rare here...never imported. I traded this for a very nice RZ500 that I restored.
Here it is...fresh out of storage.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t31.0-8/1404492_10153572576375107_1371865675_o.jpg)
It has low miles...and is very clean...but not running at the moment.
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Hi guys.
New member here.
I have a 3MA. I bought it about 10 years ago...but had some kids and needed to store it for a while.
I have started a project to get it running again...so I'm finding this forum really helpful.
These bikes are rare here...never imported. I traded this for a very nice RZ500 that I restored.
Nice 3MA karmaboy! Where is here? What's you location?
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wow that looks like you have just finished it not about to start on her she's a beaut ;)
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Welcome to the forum karmaboy! That 3MA looks amazing! As Steve said, it looks like you just finished it!
Cheers, Fanis
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Nice 3MA karmaboy! Where is here? What's you location?
Thanks all.
I'm in Ottawa, Ontario...the nation's capital. Its still very much winter here.
I've cleaned up the carbs, and the tank.
Hoped it would start this weekend...but no luck.
I was hoping it would be easy...but I'm learning nothing is with these bikes.
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Nice 3MA karmaboy! Where is here? What's you location?
Thanks all.
I'm in Ottawa, Ontario...the nation's capital. Its still very much winter here.
I've cleaned up the carbs, and the tank.
Hoped it would start this weekend...but no luck.
I was hoping it would be easy...but I'm learning nothing is with these bikes.
WOW a 3ma in Ottawa! I'm in Ottawa as well.
Will keep a lookout for your 3ma at the local bike places.
Hopefully you get it sorted soon as it looks like spring is finally just around the corner!
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Hi,
new in the forum! My name is Manuel and I'm from Portugal. 2 stroke lover and always wanted a tzr 250 as my "oficial" first bike was a mini tzr250 - the ysr! :)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y505/ysrpt/image_zps637a1483.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/ysrpt/media/image_zps637a1483.jpg.html)
Just posted some parts for sale before introducing myself - sorry....
Cheers
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Hi All,
I'm Mark from Thailand (UK originally) Bought a basket case 3xv1 about three years ago and have been steadily pulling my hair out ever since trying to get her running again :-[; after 18 months of sulking after my more recent failures have decided to push ahead once more.
I'm currently repairing the bodywork and reverting back to original 91 Colours, will post some pics once she's looking happier :)
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Welcome on board 8)
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Hi all!
I'm Antti, 22 years old from Finland. I've been with Yamahas since baby, 'cause my father is Yamaha mechanic (since 1982). So I have owned some Yamahas and I still have couple of them. As you can see from my signature, I have '90 2MA TZR, very fast RD125LC YPVS '86 and old banger IT250 '84.
Here's pic of TZR:
(http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j440/Makistation/Mopoja/20140422_191012_zpsab768bcf.jpg)
I gonna tell something more about my life with this bike in own thread. :)
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Hi Antti and welcome it will be good to read all about it ;)
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... and old banger IT250 '84.
Welcome. Check out the IT Forum: http://www.yamahait.com.au/forum/index.php (http://www.yamahait.com.au/forum/index.php)
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500 Members!
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Congratulations Antti your our 500th member ;)
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I was registered with this forum before it went through the change and tried to log in again but couldn't remember any of the login details. So, I am now re-registered and saying hello, again.
Pints all 'round!
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Hi,
I'm Richard and the proud owner of a 2MA which i have converted to 1KT spec (indicators, mirrors and also the white rev counter)
Was a member before of the old forum, glad to be back :-)
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welcome back to the forum mouse
some good stuff on here ,
and getting more members all the time !
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Yes, welcome back mouse.I remember you from the old forum too,you wanted my spare white dial rev-counter at one time which is now on my 1KT,and i gave you the dimensions and pics of my genuine yamaha seat cover bolts so you could get some made.
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Yes, welcome back mouse.I remember you from the old forum too,you wanted my spare white dial rev-counter at one time which is now on my 1KT,and i gave you the dimensions and pics of my genuine yamaha seat cover bolts so you could get some made.
Hi Teezer,
Yes, good to be back.
I got a clock set with the white rev counter from japan in the meantime, they look very cool on the bike :)
As for the solo cowl screws, i still have the drawings from your measurements but haven't found a way to get some made cheap.... And at the moment i don't have acces to a lathe sadly... :(
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I'm back after an extended absence. My business has kept me insanely busy and the poor TZR and TDR have languished at the back of the garage. Getting ready for the 2XT / WR build this winter.
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Hello Gents,
New to the forum, I am not an owner of TZR. Here to read about 2 strokes. :'(
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Hi Folks.
New guy here. thought I'd say hello.
I've had a hankering for a 2 stroke for a while now. I was initially looking at RGV's but then I found this forum! I think I've settled on a 3xv, but having said that those 3ma underseat pipes do look the dogs. More research needed I reckon.
Any advice gratefully received
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Welcome to the forum.
3XVs are very good. The pinacle of 250 sport production bikes imo, especially if some minor mods are done to dem.
3MAs, can´t say yet... guess I´ll find out next summer as I´m in the process of rebuilding one.
There are massive amonts of information on this forum, enjoy the reading!
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Hi guys.
I am coming here hoping to meet some more TZR nuts like myself.
Some of you may know me from another servery dying forum. (same user name) for those of you whom do not know me.
I have been dealing with tzr 125s for the best part of 14 years. ive owned several, and own a 2rk. (still awaiting restoration)
I am here in the hopes that the tzr will live on, and hopefully share/learn new knowledge.
I am a mechanical maintenance engineer. which basically means i can and do take anything apart, from a lawn mower to a ships engine, repair it, and put it all back together.
hopefully working ;D
well. thats a very brief introduction.
Tony.
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Hi and welcome Tony, Well yo have hit the jackpot if you're after TZR nuts. Most of us miss this welcome bit so just jump straight in, you will love it ;)
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You didn't waste anytime did you Tony.. ;) You won't be disappointed me thinks ;D
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well. whats the point in moping russ?
or flogging a dead horse?
or pushing the cart uphill?
in other words, if its dead. its dead. but, i will still frequesnt that other place as you do get the odd person through that needs help. :)
but. right in i jump 8)
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lol. Very true Tony. ;D
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Hi guys.
I am coming here hoping to meet some more TZR nuts like myself.
Some of you may know me from another servery dying forum. (same user name) for those of you whom do not know me.
Tony.
I know you Tony,I'm Mic on the said forum.We've(TZR Forum)died twice,once tragically,but like the Phoenix have risen again ;D
Welcome..
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Hi guys.
I am coming here hoping to meet some more TZR nuts like myself.
Some of you may know me from another servery dying forum. (same user name) for those of you whom do not know me.
I have been dealing with tzr 125s for the best part of 14 years. ive owned several, and own a 2rk. (still awaiting restoration)
I am here in the hopes that the tzr will live on, and hopefully share/learn new knowledge.
I am a mechanical maintenance engineer. which basically means i can and do take anything apart, from a lawn mower to a ships engine, repair it, and put it all back together.
hopefully working ;D
well. thats a very brief introduction.
Tony.
Welcome! 8) Post up some pics of your bikes, we do like pics :D
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Ahhh Mic. was wondering what happened to you :) lol.
nice to see your still kicking arround.
I would post pics of my bike. but im too embaressed by its current state. put it this way, the grass is growing.
But i do have every intention of breaking her down this winter, and doing a full nuts and bolts resto. :) so maybe then i will start taking the pics :)
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Ahhh Mic. was wondering what happened to you :) lol.
nice to see your still kicking arround.
One size doesn't fit all Tony hence why 125cc forum has its limitations.I own a 'few' 2 strokes and so go on dedicated forums for best advice from people who own them..As for this site..I love TZR250s....I only wish my TZRs could lose the R..heaven
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Hello guys im new!
Im johnny and looking at buying a TZR 3MA.
I currently have a Yamaha R6 (99) and a Uk spec NC30 (90).
Always loved 2 strokes, and now im in the market for one :)
I just need to know, the 3MA, are parts hard to come across? im looking at buying a fresh import and slowly doing up? That way i can make it mint, well thats the plan doesnt always go that way,hehehe.
Have a look, what do you think of this one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-TZR-250-3MA-reverse-cylinder-/151354016426?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item233d6702aa
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I bought my bike from ukmotorcycles (3ma) bike was as described but be prepared to wait for 3 or more months for cert for road reg, they will tell you about ten days, but its bullshit..
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I bought my bike from ukmotorcycles (3ma) bike was as described but be prepared to wait for 3 or more months for cert for road reg, they will tell you about ten days, but its bullshit..
You buy a 3MA? I see they have lots. 1st was supposed to arrive beginning september, now end of Oct.
Looking at the bike, i dont think the paint scheme is genuine,....but does look good.
Ahhhh i thought it was easy to register with DVLA lol.
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Yep bought a 3ma which I sold, didn't want to sell it but wanted a 500
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I'm a new member based in Bangkok..I have 2 TZR 3 mas a 1989 model and a 1990 model with USD forks..
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welcome here.
Don't hesitate to open a thread and post pictures of your TZRs...
We love pictures ;)
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600 members!
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Hello everyone,
I was a long time ago a member of the old forum,
but I had a lot of personal and family issues and I lost touch,
now im back, and have forgot probably all of what I learnt from the old board, so expect a lot of seemingly stupid questions yet again,
thanks,
Mark.
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Welcome back :)
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Welcome back :)
thank you,
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Hi All,
Just joined after buying a project bike off flea bay. It's a '91 3XV2 SP. Looked for weeks for a 250 2 stroke needing work and this came up.
The bike is a credit to the previous owner who has not found time in years to put it back together. The motor has been rebuilt and the chassis is rolling. It needs some parts and putting back together as it came in 6 big boxes!
Haven't stopped reading this forum since finding it, really impressed. I am bound to need some help, but promise to search as much as I can before asking. Don't flame me for the odd stupid question though.
Haven't built a bike in a long time and looking forward to it. Started out on fizzies, built a few X7s (but didn't have a license at the time). Passed and had an ex track 2MA for a first proper bike followed by a RGV250, RS250, ZX7R, KTM; 660SMC and currently on a 08SDR.
After riding a 1000cc V twin with massive engine breaking and instant power the 3XV is going to be fun getting used to.
Will get some pics up when I can.
Cheers Scotty (South Wales UK)
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Welcome aboard Scotty
There are a few members in that part of the UK that you will no doubt catch up with as a 3XV owner, and most on here will give you their valued opinions and assistance.
Jools
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Welcome 8) We were discussing that SP project (I assume it's that one! hehe ) :
http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?topic=2379.0
Glad you found your way here! Post up a project thread when you start it. They guys will help with any questions you have :)
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Hi Scotty and welcome i was wondering when the new owner would appear here :D i spent several hour's contemplating that SP but i bottled it in the last few seconds of the auction i have been kicking myself for the last week lol.
Hope you have fun with it you will love her.
Steve
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Cheers all for the welcome.
That is the bike, so apols if others were bidding! It's a 91 registered in 93 and seems genuine enough, I hope. I actually hadn't read the forum for more than a day before the auction ended.
TBH I really did not expect to win it and ended up paying just £50 under my max. The previous owner was Adam who I think just frequented the LC forums.
I don't think, it's too much cash as was also looking at a Regianni RS250 with a knackered gearbox that went over £3k and this is more bike than that. I am really hoping that it isn't going to cost £1.5K- £2k to finish it though. The side panels I may get away with but the rest is different shades of white or scruffy. I do realise though how some parts are mega bucks, just not sure yet exactly what's missing so will have to wait and see!
I was looking for something to get me through the winter that will hold it's value, be a tidy bike to use and something you don't see every day. I am not in it for a quick buck.
Is it Fozzy who is in my neck of the woods, I saw a thread where he went to REPS' dyno which is pretty close to me. Enjoy the WE. Best scotty
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Hi Scotty yes fozzy is in south Wales Paul mid Wales and i am north Wales. ;)
Well if you want to keep the same quality as Adam's work i think you will be looking at £1500 -£2000 but you will have a very nice bike in the end.
Or just swap it for my Regi RS250 ;D ;D ;D
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Hello there, I m based in Greece and I m a happy owner of a 3xvR model which I am rebuiding its engine this period. Maybe I procceed to a full bike rebuild sometime.
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Welcome :) Post up some pics if you have any 8)
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Hello Bananas and welcome hope you like it here there's some good people on here to help you out if needed ;)
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Hello from England, West Midlands. Just put down a deposit on a 2MA import from Holland. Not worked on a 2 stroke for a very long time, hoping I can get some knowledge from here and make a few friends in the process.
The bike is with the dealer going through the import and MOT process. I can see I'm going to need to give it a little TLC, but it's all there and original, and doesn't look like it's ever been down the road.
Jobs to do:
Clean carbs
Change Petrol cap
Touch up the tank
Respray exhaust down-pipes
Polish fork legs
Owned one of these back in the early 90s, thought I'd get another before they become too expensive.
If anyone has one of these anywhere near the West Midlands I'd be keen to know.
Thanks
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Hi all, just dropped in to congratulate my brother on getting his 3xv project running. I'm a bit of a suzuki fan these days, but cut my teeth on yams, would love another one day..
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old member cant remember my old user name password etc etc etc.
anyway hi again
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Hello all.
Just stumbled on this site, Very impressed so far. in the middle of a 125 4fl rebuild at the moment myself.
Looking forward to some good reading here.
Shane
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700 Members!
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Hi, Just joined up on the forum.
I bought my TZR125 brand new back in 1990, the only one of my mates who had one with a rear disc :) I've still got it tucked safely away in my Mum's garage and hoping to get it back on the road later this year. I also have a 1989 TZR250 and like the 125 it is running a Stan Stephens stage 3 tune, it has been off the road for the last 2 years as I've been moving around a bit but now have a nice big garage to work on her :)
As for other bikes , I have a 1988 DT50MX, XT225 Serow and a 1979 RD400, for some reason all my bikes are red and white Yams :)
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Hi and welcome it's always good to get a nice big man cave to work on your bikes ;) you will love it here lots of yam mechanics here 8)
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Cheers :) and good to know there are some helpful people on here, I'm sure that I'll have a few questions......................
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Hi new to the forum. Just bought tzr 250 2ma import. I used to have a rd350 ypvs n2. Had a lot of bikes since but always regretted selling the rd.
Tzr is on a 88 plate, 25000 miles and in pretty good condition. Just waiting for age related plate before I can use it. Will be on here for some advice.
all the best john
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Welcome everyone. Don't forget to get some pics of your bikes in the relevant area, or just get some pics up cos we all love bike' pics :-)
Oh yes and dont forget to put your location on your profile cos there are members from places you couldn't imagine. Wales even :-)
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Diolch yn fawr iawn Phil ;D
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Ahhhhhh phil. Youre too funny. ;D
Put location in personal text
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Good point - If you put it in Location it doesn't show up. It has to go in Personal Text on your profile
diolch i chi
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mae'n bleser
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Hi all you may have seen my 3ma some may know me as speedy sie ,I'm using the 3ma for road racing if I can get it ready or my Rgv such is ready .would love help with the 3ma info and tips to keep it race ready ,later this year I'll strip and get it super race ready for next year
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Hi my names Steve
I had a TZR 125 new back in 1990 passed my test and had the power valve fitted and loved the bike unfortunately with me being around 13 stone back then and the wife not far off the poor 125 used to struggle especially pulling away up hill so after 18 months I traded her in (the bike not the wife) for a BMW R100RT. since then have had various other bikes on and off over the years I at present have a VFR 750 FR but I've always missed the TZR so I'm presently on the hunt for one it will probably be a TZR 125 4fl maybe not the most exciting I'd like the 4dl but funds are limited and reading some of the posts on here parts seem to be either hard to come by and expensive.
need to find out what I can get for the VFR and see what's about.
oh I am an old fart 62 in December and am by no means a knee down rider I don't get anywhere near the edge of my tyres a good 20 25mm short I'd say.
so that's me hope to post a pic or two when I get sorted.
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Welcome Steve - driving 2 stroke makes you feel younger ;)
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Hi all,
I Bought my 1KT about a year ago took it out a few times and was uninspired, I just thought it was an older machine and probably just not that quick, and almost ended up selling it. But I decided to take the top end off, clean the power valves and make sure they were working etc. (as now i'm sure they weren't) I took it for another spin.. and OMG how wrong was I ? haha.
I love the bike to bits and even though i bought an Aprilia RS250 in the mean time I've decide to keep the TZR and sell the RS as it's far more useable on the road.
Great forum and no doubt i'll be pestering you all for advice one how to keep the old girl running sweet ;)
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Good one. A few Aussies on here.
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Welcome guys :) Post up project threads if plan on working on the bikes 8)
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Evening all, another newbie here from the Midlands, UK.
Now in my late 40s(like many of us I guess?!) im much more interested in my 2 strokes than the new, bigger 4 strokes(also like many of us!) but they have their place and I wouldnt be without a 4 T in the garage.
That said, I get the most enjoyment from riding and owning my 350LC, KR1 and my recent purchase a (very lightly) used TZR250 2MA.
Ive known about the bike for some years but never dreamt id own it, it was very well looked after as part of a lovely chaps collection but sat without a wheel turned for many a year, the bike has just over 3,000 miles on the clock and still sits on its OE Dunlops.
I have a lot of other commitments(and a lack of space at home) so the plan is to replace the tyres end of the year , get it back on the road and enjoy some fine evenings on it.
Look forward to joining in with the banter and learning some more about these bikes.
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Welcome to the forum.
What a MINT bike that is,i had a 1990 model back in 1994 for 3 years and currently have 2 1986 1KT models.
Couldn't help but notice that the rear wheel spindle is in the wrong way round,the nuts should be on the left ;)
I would think a full fluid change would also be required along with the brake hoses.
That's what i would be doing as i have with all the bikes i've bought.
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Welcome 8) That bike looks brand new! Back story?
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Thanks chaps, noted re wheel spindle nut(what would we do without these forums?!) lol
I wont actually be getting on road until next year and the fluids have been changed regularly but Yes, it'll need a bit of TLC before any MOT.
Sorry YBK, im not sure what "back story?" means.
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Hallo Ik ben in bezit van een 1kt tzr maar heb een probleem hij wil niet starten geen vonk op de bougies alles laten controleren ontsteking en pickup spoel de cdi inzit was ook goed wie kan mij helpen gr dick
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Hallo Ik ben in bezit van een 1kt tzr maar heb een probleem hij wil niet starten geen vonk op de bougies alles laten controleren ontsteking en pickup spoel de cdi inzit was ook goed wie kan mij helpen gr dick
Hallo Dick. Wenn Sie diese Frage im 1KT Abschnitt fragen , dann werden Sie eine Antwort bekommen.
Grüße. Phil
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Hi folks just bought a TZR250 3xv8 and own a Kawasaki KR1S and a award winning RGV250 hybrid that won first prize for best modern classic and also restoring a RGV vj21
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you found it then
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you need this lot
http://pure2strokespirit.net/redandblue/filebrowser.html (http://pure2strokespirit.net/redandblue/filebrowser.html)
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Welcome Ivor.
Post some pics when you get a gap.
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Hi all, not my first post, but I didn't really introduce myself. Mainly because at the time I didn't have a bike. On Tuesday though I picked up my 1993 3XV9 250 RS. A 500 mile round trip to London and back from Plymouth. Mechanically it seems to be pretty good although I haven't even sat on it yet, let alone run it. There is some cosmetic damage to the plastics but it's all repairable. It's a recent import and I need to get it registered. I've not owned a Yamaha since my Windle TZ750 Sidecar that I last raced in 1983. I have a lot of experience with TZs from the 70s & 80s when I was a race mechanic. Now I need a hobby and this TZR seems to fit the bill. Enough of the same Yamaha engineering to be familiar with a fair degree of improvements to make life interesting. I'll enjoy tidying it up and releasing some of the potential horsepower, I've already found a spare engine and pipes, although it's a wet clutch engine from an earlier model it's in pretty good shape.
I've already made contact with Martin77 and I'll be getting some porting done by him soon, 2016 looks like being an exciting year.
Paul in Plymouth
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Welcome Paul. The 93RS has the best paintwork design ;).
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Yes I do like the colour scheme, I did think about a complete change to something similar to one of the bikes I used to work on, but I'm keeping it standard. Maybe if I get an aftermarket TZ fairing & seat I might have something different, or unique.
Merry Christmas
Paul
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Following my recent introduction, any of you out there who read Classic Racer Magazine can see a picture of me on page 52 working as mechanic for Austin Hockley at the first modern era race meeting at Donington Park.
Paul
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who read Classic Racer Magazine
Kindly consider that the forum members are global :) would like to se page 52 - could you scan it and post it here maybe ?
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I'll contact them and see if that's OK
Paul
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Hi all, not my first post, but I didn't really introduce myself. Mainly because at the time I didn't have a bike. On Tuesday though I picked up my 1993 3XV9 250 RS. A 500 mile round trip to London and back from Plymouth. Mechanically it seems to be pretty good although I haven't even sat on it yet, let alone run it. There is some cosmetic damage to the plastics but it's all repairable. It's a recent import and I need to get it registered. I've not owned a Yamaha since my Windle TZ750 Sidecar that I last raced in 1983. I have a lot of experience with TZs from the 70s & 80s when I was a race mechanic. Now I need a hobby and this TZR seems to fit the bill. Enough of the same Yamaha engineering to be familiar with a fair degree of improvements to make life interesting. I'll enjoy tidying it up and releasing some of the potential horsepower, I've already found a spare engine and pipes, although it's a wet clutch engine from an earlier model it's in pretty good shape.
I've already made contact with Martin77 and I'll be getting some porting done by him soon, 2016 looks like being an exciting year.
Paul in Plymouth
Welcome Paul,
A Janner boy eh ? you'll be getting to know Warwick & Martin 77 soon then I imagine....... ;D
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No I'm not a Janner, I'm Derby born & bred. Nothing wrong with Janners though I have a lot of local friends.
I've been in touch with Martin77 and I'll be going to see him fairly soon I hope. It all depends on my progress pulling my engine apart, well, engines actually. I bought a spare one with a good top-end and a serviceable crank, but I'll get that rebuilt and then have a very good spare. For £350 I had to have it.
I had to keep the bike together until I got the registration sorted in case it had to be inspected, that's done now and I own R244 CCY. It came through on Friday and since we had a spot of sunny weather on Saturday I took the chance to get outside and build a workbench. At my age working on the floor is killing me.
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Hi Everyone,
New to the forum so thought i would say hello..
I was brought up on RD200/400 LC350 & YPVS350's but of course things moved on and bikes changed so its been a while since i had a Yamaha twin.
A colleague of mine has got a 1988 TZR250 that need rescuing, it runs and has an MOT and stuff but it needs some loving. I have decided that it deserves looking after so I'm going to buy it off of him and bring it back to where it should be. It looks like there are some real nuggets of information here so glad to be along.
First question..... Its a 1988 conventional cylinder bike that started life in Japan before being imported here in 1999. Its had a whole bunch of owners, looks pretty tired and there is very little history with it but it runs nice, stops and goes. How much should i give him for it? I know as little as possible :D but i want to be fair. What do you think??
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Hi all,
Joined a couple of weeks ago as finally got to start my 1kt project, new year resolution, please don't ask how long shes been sat there :-[ embarrassing. plan on converting it quite a lot. Think I had the same dream as another member on here, Xracer.
Have ordered some parts that have started to arrive. Let the works begin.
Will post some pics in a new thread as soon as I can.
Michael
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who read Classic Racer Magazine
Kindly consider that the forum members are global :) would like to se page 52 - could you scan it and post it here maybe ?
I don't think it's possible to post part of the magazine for copyright reasons, especially as it is the current issue and can be purchaed and downloaded online. http://www.classicracer.com/Current-Issue/
Here's my picture though as this belongs to Austin and he let me have a copy.
Paul
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Thanks for sharing :)
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Im a bit late saying hello ive never bothered joining a forum before and honestly it never crossed my mind to introduce myself, but here goes Im from northern ireland and bought a 1993 3xvrs. Im just coming back to two strokes and its my first bigger than a 125, of which I had heaps. My biggest regret with my bikes was selling my tzr 125 4fl which was my first bike that I rode to death and revived a few times. Recently I helped a friend revive his aprilia rs 125 that he had back when i had my 125. I forgot how much I loved them and just NEEDED one again so when I seen a fresh import in cork and with the euro being relatively weak to me it was a no brainer.
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Big Hello!
After the kids and big break of bikes. Was discussing with a mate about getting a classic.
By luck i have a bit of cash at the moment and looked at the prices if an rc30. Ouch! Am not spending 20k +
After having a TDR when everyone else had kr1/rgv i am now thinking TZR , as those speed blocks are still awesome in my eyes.
The internet is a bit vague until i saw this site.
Which model is the one to go for then? I am a bit confused as to what was a uk bike but i dont think i really care, just getting excited cos its been ten years.
What are spares and service like these days, i live near peterborough.
All replies gratefully received for this 10 minute old newbie. Thanks in advance.
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Welcome
The 3MA and 3XV were never officially imported
It all depends which one you want
https://web.archive.org/web/20080511154722/http://www.pure-2-stroke-spirit.info/node/12
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Wellcome,
Im Near Peterborough and run a TDR and 3MA on the road, the TDR is as you know straight forward and fun, I think its the same motor as the 2ma which is a nice bike, The 3XV is lovely but I opted for the 3ma, If you are prepared to work with the bike and give it some attention its very rewarding, Mine has upside-down front end, Cbr1000 rear shock, 17" rear wheel, and a host of tweaks that make the engine go well, all of which the boys on here helped me archive.... If you have LOTS of money what about a RD500 they are nice and you wont lose, Of course I like the 250 as its lite and easy to wrestle about, welcome,
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Al'reet
Thanks for letting me through the door.
I've got a 1kt thats sat in the shed for 6 years while life got in the way...it looks like I (and a mate) should be able to make a start on it this year.
I'm getting rid of the fairing and going for a(roughly) 350n look with 125 belgarda wheels and a new set of pipes.
I'll stick the pics up as things start to come together.
cheers
Stu
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Hey all, fellow 2-stroker and late 80's superbike fan. Working on getting my hands on part of a 1KT and may build some sort of hybrid or other. Mostly into the RZ350 stuff here on the 2 stroke side of things.
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Hello and welcome,
Where are you based?
Your in the right place for help and advice,
Cheers
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Right. In Alberta Canada. Only ever seen one TZR for sale in our province before. Exceptionally rare. Looks like deal is pretty much done for motor so will be looking for parts soon!
Anyone who has sourced parts in Canada before would be interested to hear how it went.
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Hi guys
I don't currently own a TZR but will be looking at getting either a 3MA or 3XV later this year. I love 2 strokes and would like to build a collection to stick in my house. I've currently got an RGV (sorry) that I'm in the process of restoring. Last year I restored my other RGV but pressure from the missus meant I had to sell it. I've got other bikes; an XS650 street tracker that is almost complete and an MT07 that I use for commuting.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3727677/IMG_2058%20-%20Copy.JPG)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3727677/XS650-01.JPG)
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welcome,
that 650 is lovely!!!
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that 650 is lovely!!!
Thanks! Since the frame was modified with a goose neck and the engine installed, I don't like how the frame finishes behind the engine. This year I'll be fabricating a frame from scratch then it will be finished
Dave
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Al'reet
Thanks for letting me through the door.
I've got a 1kt thats sat in the shed for 6 years while life got in the way...it looks like I (and a mate) should be able to make a start on it this year.
I'm getting rid of the fairing and going for a(roughly) 350n look with 125 belgarda wheels and a new set of pipes.
I'll stick the pics up as things start to come together.
cheers
Stu
Welcome Stu
look forward to your progress. That's a bit different approach which is always an interesting read.
Jools
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Hi There -
I'm building a set of 3 YZR 500 replicas and have 2 x TZR 3XV frames (well ones a 125 but meh) and a 3MA - which i will be needing bits for to complete so I'll probably be hanging around the for sale and wanted sections mostly - but will be reading up about fork swaps etc as need a greate offset to squeeze in the RD500 motors :-)
Regards,
Jeremy
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hello
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Hi, here is another 'New One'. My Name is Markus. I Live here near Hamburg in Germany.
My Bikes are Two Yamaha TZR 125 SP, one TZR 80 RR, a Gilera SP02 and a Suzuki RG125F. All off them gets a Restauration, or i make it better ;-)
One TZR SP will be original, one becomes the Suspension from the 3MA (Front from 3MA SP, rear with Rim from the SZR660, 17") and a modified Engine (Cup- Parts, TZM 150 Cylinder and so on),
The 80 RR becomes the Suspension from the TZM 150 (have nearly the same Frame)
The Gilera complete original
And the Suzuki gets also complete rebuild (Front from VJ22 SP and so on)
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hi, I am Dejan from Slovenia
i have:
-TZR 250 2MA
-TDR 250
-RD 350 LC2
-RD 350 N
-RD 350 F
-RD 350 F2
-RD 350 R
-RD 500
-a lot of spare parts for those bikes
I looking for RD 350 N2 ,TZR 250 3MA and 3XV.
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Hi TZR people,
I'm Darcy from Canada. I don't own a TZR, but rather i'm a full time 2 stroke tuner that works mostly in the snowmobile industry.
I do own an RG500, and NS400r, and am a serious 2 stroke bike guy. I'm here to see if I can get help to source a few parts for one of my projects...I'm putting 4 TZR250 cylinders onto an RG400 bottom end. I was involved in a previous project where TZ250 cylinder were put onto an RG500 bottom. This time i'd like to make a milder version that's more street friendly...so the TZR cylinder is my choice.
I have already gathered up 4 cylinders, but would like another 1 or 2 for development.
I'm looking for one or more cylinders in almost any condition...even cracked or non repairable ones are fine.
I'd like the cylinders with the 3XV00 Y-1 markings...I think those are the ones with the lowest ports???
...but any 3XV00 would be of interest to me. I'll be using the cylinders for flow testing and sectioning to make drawings.
My hope is to find some at a pretty reasonable price, as a project like this is already pretty costly.
PM me if you might have something of interest to me. I don't mind any questions about the project either, even if you're just curious.
Thanks, Darcy
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You may like this thread on French 2 strokes forum
43 pages on putting 4 YZ125 top end on RG500
- nice CAD
- nice CNC parts
- engine nearly back in the frame.
http://forum.2temps.fr/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13007&start=700 (http://forum.2temps.fr/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13007&start=700)
(http://forum.2temps.fr/download/file.php?id=11141&mode=view)
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Hi TZR people,
I'm Darcy from Canada. I don't own a TZR, but rather i'm a full time 2 stroke tuner that works mostly in the snowmobile industry.
I do own an RG500, and NS400r, and am a serious 2 stroke bike guy. I'm here to see if I can get help to source a few parts for one of my projects...I'm putting 4 TZR250 cylinders onto an RG400 bottom end. I was involved in a previous project where TZ250 cylinder were put onto an RG500 bottom. This time i'd like to make a milder version that's more street friendly...so the TZR cylinder is my choice.
I have already gathered up 4 cylinders, but would like another 1 or 2 for development.
I'm looking for one or more cylinders in almost any condition...even cracked or non repairable ones are fine.
I'd like the cylinders with the 3XV00 Y-1 markings...I think those are the ones with the lowest ports???
...but any 3XV00 would be of interest to me. I'll be using the cylinders for flow testing and sectioning to make drawings.
My hope is to find some at a pretty reasonable price, as a project like this is already pretty costly.
PM me if you might have something of interest to me. I don't mind any questions about the project either, even if you're just curious.
Thanks, Darcy
BSA Bantam wit an RG engine and 4 x air cooled barrels
http://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/43647-bsa-bantam/
Here's that other one
http://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/58210-rg-500-with-yz-barrels/
BDK engineering put RGV barrels on the RGV bottom end (I've got one)
Then there is this
http://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/50215-500-v4/page-1
See it run here
https://www.facebook.com/2tiemposracing/videos/574998532677859/
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Hi all,
I shall be getting a TZR 250 2ma shortly.I have also got a Kawasaki KR1 and a KR1S,Yamaha TRX 850.I work for an engineering company as a development machinist.Looks like this forum is a helpful and friendly site.
Regards,
Boggy :)
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Hi Boggy and welcome to the forum. If you update your forum profile you will get even more love from the masses as they will know where you are based. You never know, someone might be just round the corner and able to help/assist.
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allright boggy
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Sorry if this has been asked a hundred times before but,I can't see how to add my location in my profile.I live in Gloucestershire if that helps.
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Sorry if this has been asked a hundred times before but,I can't see how to add my location in my profile.
It's under the "Profile" dropdown, option "Forum Profile". Oh, and I'm just round the corner as well ;). Don't forget Prescott on Sunday if you are about (http://www.prescottbikefestival.co.uk/ (http://www.prescottbikefestival.co.uk/))
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Sorry if this has been asked a hundred times before but,I can't see how to add my location in my profile.I live in Gloucestershire if that helps.
Welcome Boggy (I have some of your spacers in my KR1s RGV wheel). Best get yourself booked into the coolest track day with the KR1s (Luders is coming) before it fills up....
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Maybe,I have just changed the water pump seal.I need to fire it up and see if all is OK!
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Welcome to the forum Boggy ;)
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You may like this thread on French 2 strokes forum
43 pages on putting 4 YZ125 top end on RG500
- nice CAD
- nice CNC parts
- engine nearly back in the frame.
http://forum.2temps.fr/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13007&start=700 (http://forum.2temps.fr/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13007&start=700)
(http://forum.2temps.fr/download/file.php?id=11141&mode=view)
Wow! Liking that...and the other customs!
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Hi, I´m new here, my name is Matthias, live in Germany, I own a RD500, TZR250 3XV4 and TZR250 3MA.
I hope to find some other user to share the same 2- Stroke interests.
Matt
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Welcome :D Post up some pics in the gallery 8)
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I have this....
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/563/22851990196_07792132fc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/APmqwY)IMG_20151108_163230[1] (https://flic.kr/p/APmqwY) by ian landon (https://www.flickr.com/photos/1959mercurywagon/), on Flickr
and this....
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3784/9214568277_fa60caeed5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/f3g57R)IMG_20130617_171411 (https://flic.kr/p/f3g57R) by ian landon (https://www.flickr.com/photos/1959mercurywagon/), on Flickr
And now I need a TZR in my life...in yellow. :)
I,m looking for a project, something thats runs well, but scruffy as I will be stripping and rebuilding it...in Yellow/white and Black!.
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Hi I'm a big TZR250 fan. Love them just wish they are available to buy new now. Much more fun than the big heavy 1000cc bike they try to get us to buy.
Loved raiding and racing my RD230/RD350s too.
I'm selling a few bits for the 3XV body panels see the 3XV specific section.
Have fun keep safe!
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Hi Y2T fans,
new member on the board. After many years of searching got me a TDR250, a blue one.
Other bikes in my mini shed are RD F2 & DT200R (and one diesel).
Looking for more info about TDR improvements ...
That's it for now,
Cheers
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Welcome. We love pics and put your location on your profile, it's under the "Profile" dropdown, option "Forum Profile". Is it Begbies old TDR?
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Thanx MellorP,
everyone loves pics .. have this TDR just a week so no good pics yet. This one is from the phone when I took it home.
Cheers
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Hi All,
Just joined, I have a 1987 2ma British bike, which i haven't had on the road since about 2001, I have owned it since 1994. I rebuilt the top end in 2001 and unfortunately it has been in the garage ever since. I always intended doing a restoration, but haven't got around to it.
So the reason for joining this forum is to put it up for sale so an enthusiast can take it and give it a new lease of life.
Anyone interested for more details, please message me.
Cheers,
Nick.
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Greetings from Bolton CT, USA. We have a 1994 TZR which we imported from Japan about 10 years ago as one of the bikes we imported as part of our business, Rising Sun Cycles (RSC). RSC focused on importation of gp bikes, including Honda RS 125s and 250s as well as TZ 250s. We sold the company a few years back but it continues. After much searching U.S sources as well as our Japan new parts sources, we recently had to buy used carb rubbers from ebay Japan since new ones are no longer no longer available. Incidentally, RSC may still be able to source many parts for U.S. customers and others as well if they are still available in Japan. We have some used 3MA parts including a frame and miscellaneous bits others on this forum may find useful. We'll check the barn and hopefully post some time in the future. Cheers, Rich Barger
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Welcome to the forum. I'm sure there will be interest in any parts you have, especially if you don't mind posting internationally.
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Welcome to the forum. I'm sure there will be interest in any parts you have, especially if you don't mind posting internationally.
... and they are reasonably priced.
Welcome to the forum :-)
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Not posted for a while, but finished putting my bike together: Very pleased ;D
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Hello,
New to the forum. Located in British Columbia Canada.
I have a TZR250 2ME currently on the workbench.
Should have walked away from it, but I always wanted one when they were first introduced.
Have owned multiple RZ, RD, TYs over the years being a Yamaha 2 stroke guy for life.
Not currently riding but plan to use the TZR for a relaunch.
It is proving to be a labour of love with the rebuild as I seem to be missing more pieces than I initially thought.
The intent is to fix the mechanical and aim towards a fairly original bike without doing any major refinishing . It is never going to be a museum piece.
Big problem is the shortage of replacement second hand parts. I am getting them online and will have a mix of Japanese and Canadian spec.
Couple of pictures of the before and where I am at now.
Going to need some help locating the small pieces for my jigsaw.
Steve
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Looks like a nice project, you have your work cut out! :D It's always worth it in the end 8)
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Hi,
Newbie to forum here from Stafford UK. Have restored 31K previously, so not to different. First TZR 250 2MA, had a TZR125 2RJ (Swiss Import) previously. First pic was how it was and 2nd progress to date.
Cheers
Al.
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Here's the first pic, not sure what happened there?
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Ahhhh!!!!! the one that was on ebay recently.
I was outbid on that as it went for more than I was prepared to pay.
Good luck with finishing off the restoration,should look good once finished.
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Cheers it's coming on nicely at the minute. Fired her up the other day, sounds good.
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Just saying Hi (again), was a member of the previous forum before it all went a bit squiffy. Been out of action for a couple of years and bikes have had to suffer for it.
Anyway, i still have the TZR250 2MA, which was someone elses project. Desperately trying to get it back together and running, but awaiting for lots of bits to arrive in the post. Anything and everything that could go wrong has. YPVS controller arrived back to me today from Athens following its rebuild, which has cured the lack of noise from that area.
Carbs are out and being stripped, not in great condition inside.
Then lobbing the standard rear wheel for an SZR which will add some meat to match the rgv front end(both freshly painted, new bearings and Bridgestone S20 evo's)
Battery fried itself and the initial harness today so another job that i will have to do before i can try to get the thing to fire.
Will add a picture of it the other week when it was starting to be stripped down(lots more removed now)
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Looks like a nice project! Especially the front end 8) I can imagine taking over someones project is tricky, I get confused with my own! :o
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Have junked bits, had old rubber brake hoses on the front and an extremely old(and leaking) braided on the rear, on a completely seized caliper. Going through the whole bike sorting bits as i go.
FUN FUN FUN :(
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Welcome leem6208
Nice to see another local (ish) member
I'm in eastbourne there's a few more along the coast :)
I haven't met up with them yet trying to get mine together still..................
Terry
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Know the feeling, seems to take forever to get anything done. Been helping a friend with his tdr on my days off(rebuilding a wreck of a UK bike back to completely original spec). Will get a few more bits together while im back at work and spend a day or two on it when im off next.
Front calipers have been stripped, cleaned, regreased and new pads ready to go on. Replacement rear caliper is here(thanks Malc) as the original was a wreck and completely seized. But have found a leak on the braided rear pipe which has caused a lot of damage so have got to get that cleaned up now. Will have to get the front lines made as i have no idea what they're off(rubber lines) but theres lots of new companys making very good braided lines so that shouldnt be too costly.
Rear caliper bracket has been machined and the wheel goes in a now, chain run is a little close to the tyre and front sprocket could do with a 2mm backspace so thats to be done(once i get the manky front sprocket off).
Once its fully back on its wheels i will post another photo(be the first time off the lift and out of the garage in about 4 years)
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Just take loads of photos and post on here everyone likes to see what everyone's up to !
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I signed up a while back but have been lurking since then.
I've got a few bikes, all older, smaller stuff.
I owned a 2ma in the 90s (which I sold for next to nothing) but I'm looking to pick another one up in the near future.
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Will do Terry....when i can get back out to the garage, unfortunately i've bust my ankle!
Way its going i'll be lucky if i ever get the other bike back on the track, might have to reconvert that one back to the road so at least i can enjoy it
As for this one, managed to get the wheels back on(before the incident) and have played with chain alignment with a nice Talon front sprocket sitting here for the job. Least it's back on its wheels and off the ratchet strap.
Oh well, sh@t happens
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Welcome Jim! When you find one post up some pics :)
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hi ...just thought I would say hello..
just bought myself a TZR 125 trying to relive my youth
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Welcome :) What model is it? Post up a pic 8)
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hi m8..sorry didn't have any ..but I took this today
will take some better ones soon=)
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Hi all, I've been hoarding a TZR 250 2ma for years having loved riding it and never wanting to part with it. Very fond memories of my TZR days but now I'm 12 years older and the same number of kilos heavier I will be offering it up to a new home.
Hopefully someone on the forum will appreciate the opportunity once I can offer it in the sale forum.
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Hi all, I've been hoarding a TZR 250 2ma for years having loved riding it and never wanting to part with it. Very fond memories of my TZR days but now I'm 12 years older and the same number of kilos heavier I will be offering it up to a new home.
Hopefully someone on the forum will appreciate the opportunity once I can offer it in the sale forum.
Would be of help if you filled in your profile (location etc.) first, like you will be able to see with most of the other members.
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Hi, just joined the forum, I live in London and own a 1987 2MA.
I'm looking to buy another TZR of any condition under £1500.
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Hi all, I've been hoarding a TZR 250 2ma for years having loved riding it and never wanting to part with it. Very fond memories of my TZR days but now I'm 12 years older and the same number of kilos heavier I will be offering it up to a new home.
Hopefully someone on the forum will appreciate the opportunity once I can offer it in the sale forum.
Got any pics? I'd be interested depending how much your looking for it?
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Hi all,
Bought a 3MA1 a couple of months ago. Always loved the bikes since I saw one when they first came out. Finally got the chance to own one.
Think the head gasket might have started leaking slightly, as blowing water into the expansion tank. Could also do with a recommendation for dyno-ing in the North of England. Any advice on either greatly appreciated.
Cheers, Paul.
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Hello, new member here, just bought a TZR250 (German import) needs a bit of work so may well be asking a few questions over the next few weeks...Steve
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Welcome to the forum.
Just by looking back at previous 2ma/1kt posts and other sections,you should be able to find most of the info you need as I think most aspects have been covered.
If you need help then feel free to ask as somebody usually can help.
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Thanks Teezer :)
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Hi I'm a new member here. I just brought a 1KT a few weeks ago. It has a leaking fuel tank and the fork seals have failed.
The tank has been sealed previously, so I'm going to take it to someone today and hopefully get it repaired properly. They talked about maybe cutting the bottom open so it can be shot blasted and cleaned out properly, but we will see.
I've done fork seals plenty of times, so not too worried about them. Can anyone one recommend a good place for spares?
Thanks Christian
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Welcome to the forum.
Webb's of Lincoln for genuine Yamaha spares,speak to Andy Tempest if possible,He's a member on here.
You will get a 10% discount if you tell him you are a TZR forum member.
Only buy genuine Yamaha fork seals as pattern ones will most likely fail.
Make sure the fork stanchions are super clean and smooth when fitting the new seals.
Was this on ebay recently for around £2000 stating the leaking tank and had a restoration about 4 years ago?
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Was this on ebay recently for around £2000 stating the leaking tank and had a restoration about 4 years ago?
That's the one. Do you know the bike at all?
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No I don't know the bike.
It got advertised a few times on ebay at various prices.
I also remember seeing one located in Cheadle on Gumtree Manchester a few months ago with the same tank problem and wondered if it was the same one.
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Re Saying hello..
Just bought a TZR250 3XV which has been stood for 3 years- should make for an interesting winter project ....
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Hello and welcome. Be sure to put your location in your profile and post up some pictures of your new project. They like the pictures here they do ;)
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Hello and welcome. Be sure to put your location in your profile and post up some pictures of your new project. They like the pictures here they do ;)
Many thanks- yes I will get some up over the next few days definitely. So glad I found this little gold mine of info and expertise :)
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Welcome :) post up a project thread, the guys will guide and help with any questions????????
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will do thanks! need all the help I can get I think - but will be fun along the way
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what I love about this forum is the amount of times people say ' I haven't got a clue' and someone steps in with the answer. It really is fantastic place and everyone is so helpful- so thank you. from someone who really doesn't have a clue...
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Hey Guys,
i'm Lorenz from Germany and i recently bought this 3MA. It's an early one and exept the Fairing and the not existing key its pretty neat.
As it already has some JL pipes fitted i guess i will soon be participating in the jetting department ;-)
Cheers!
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Hi
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Welcome Lorenz and a nice 3ma you have.
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Hi all. Just got back into strokers after 35 years on four strokes! Its an age thing as well as scratching an itch that has kept bothering me. I have just bought a 1989 2MA with original body work in pretty good nick. Its been a revelation to get back on something that's light and an easy kick having had many big, mainly Brit classic bikes. Age and weak knees have taken their toll! Hoping to use the bike with the CRMC and maybe have a go at YPM with Bemsee so expect some wanted ads coming up. Any tips would be very welcome. Cheers for now.
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Well I hit my mid life crisis good and hard and decided I'm taking up racing next year ;D ;D
Got myself a TZR250 2MA to race with Yamaha Past Masters, and maybe a few other rounds. It's a good few years since I worked on one so I'm just picking my way through the spares that came with it and what I'll need. I've been running a KR1-S for the last few years and know my two strokes well enough but they all have their own little quirks.
Cheers, Doug.
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Greetings oil burners!
I just got a 1991 TZR 250 3XV R model. Stock, but runs like new. It's a fresh import from Japan.
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Nice! And welcome :) what are your plans with it :)
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I'm 6'4", 250 lbs. I got a new old stock Ohlins shock set up for me and sent from France and just found an SPR fork. I plan on riding it to get used to it and see it I want to mod the engine or not. I got a Zeel ignition that should be fun to experiment with. I plan to replace thr pistons to be safe.
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That should be a squeeze at 6'4, good luck with it sure it will be fab ;D
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It fits me better than my YZ85.
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Hello,
I've just joined the forum, having been overseas for a few years, I'm not back home and starting to look at putting a bike together again.
Way back, I had a TZR125 that I raced in the mini-stocks with Auto66, as well as riding on the road. Later on I raced a 250LC at Darley Moor and EMRA at Mallory. Going overseas, I did a few races in France then headed to Asia where I was messing around and rebuilt an LC and a 350 valves.
Now I'm back, looking at the smaller list of parts that I have left, I've got it into my head to build a TZR350, having had a chassis a few years ago that slipped through my hands.
Hoping this site is going to be a good resource for me!
Dave
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Do any members have a 3xv for sale please?
New to this model although have owned LC & ypvs Yamaha models.
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Do any members have a 3xv for sale please?
New to this model although have owned LC & ypvs Yamaha models.
Mine maybe for sale how much have you got to spend?
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Hello all,
I am a new member to this site but I used to be on another TZR site many years ago. I was living in China back then and I believe my user name then was Chinasteve or Chinaracer.
If anyone from back then remembers me please drop me a line. It would be good to hear from you.
I am trying to locate a 3xv rolling chasis if anyone knows of one. Trying to stuff a RD400 engine in one. he he. Making a franken bike
Cheers
Steve
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Hi everybody, i'm Filipe, live in Portugal, and i'm a big fan of two stroke bikes. But here don't have many of that... :-[
Until now only have two Yamaha's (DT 125 R, and Aerox), but none of them are TZR, only because they are realy hard to find around here. :'( :'( :'( :'(
But that's about to change,as i'm dealing a 3ma with a friend in UK, and looking for a 3xv in UK or in Spain.
I also have a RGV VJ 22 1991 (bought in Germany), a NSR MC21 1991 (imported from UK last 2015), and a Gilera Crono 125 (bought in Spain).
I hope can join this large and friendly comunity, and learn a lot about the most lovly 250 machines.... the TZR's.
Thanks for all and kind regards
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Hi everyone, I'm just getting into the TZR game. I've grown up with RD's, RZ's, NSR's and RS's. Street bikes and racing.
I'm getting into racing myself now and had started building an 86 RZ350 but some suppliers fell through and I really wanted to race. With no chance in hell of getting the RZ done I started looking for another, already race prepped, bike. Even if I just found a newer fuel injected 600 to run for the year and build the RZ for the next, that would do. But why settle. I put up and ambitious ad asking for a race ready bike on short notice and listed bikes I would be interested in, in order of interest, with TZR 250 at the top. (I should note, TZR's are very rare to ever find here)
Well I'd be damn'd but I got a reply from a guy offering an 88 TZR250, stored for 5 years since its last race but, freshly built before storing and just about turn key. YAHHOOO!
I got it home just today and already torn into her. I've got just shy of 2 weeks before the first event, wish me luck!
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5cnx3o533wgohy/DSC_0047.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmqt6gmzn554m2c/DSC_0053.JPG?dl=1)
The CBR is my road bike.
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Welcome Mr. Cool. I saw your post on the VRRA site.
Good score! I'm not racing, just the odd track day, but I'll be spectating at a few of the VRRA races.
Good luck.
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Hi Gammaguy, I'll actually be racing this bike at Shannonville in the RACE Superseries, running LTWT Sportsman. In case you ever attend these events, if you see me in the pits feel free to come say hi. If I need some more seat time, Maybe I'll come out for one VRRA race.
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Great! I've wanted to see how a tzr 1kt/2ma does in RACE LTWT Sportsman series.
I think there was an Aprilia rs250 that won easily a couple of years back... but I think he was asked to move to a different class.
Good luck Mr. Cool.
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Hi just joined forum restoring a 1987 2ma.
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Hello all,
I am a new member to this site but I used to be on another TZR site many years ago. I was living in China back then and I believe my user name then was Chinasteve or Chinaracer.
If anyone from back then remembers me please drop me a line. It would be good to hear from you.
I am trying to locate a 3xv rolling chasis if anyone knows of one. Trying to stuff a RD400 engine in one. he he. Making a franken bike
Cheers
Steve
Hi Steve
welcome back - I missed this post - (still got the leathers ;))
can't help with a chassis I'm afraid, there always Yahoo Japan.
Jools
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Hello all, brought myself a 3xv a few months back and slowly making progress getting it back on the road. To be honest it was a complete bargain and the first 2 stroke in a few years (marriage got in the way!) and bitten by the bug again.
So again, Hello everyone
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Hi all,
I've been avidly reading the forum since buying a 3MA3. I'm importing it from Greece from a contact there. It's standard, but a project. It hasn't run for 10 years so I'm guessing a full rebuild is on the cards. The plastics are all there but will need repairing and painting.
I'm looking forward to getting it in the UK (I've only seen pics of it so far) to go alongside my RGV (VJ22). Hopefully though I haven't bitten off more than I can chew with this one!
Regards,
Pete
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Hi Pete. Have a good read of 3MA mods by Louis, you need them to make it fly. http://www.tzr3ma.com/index.html
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Good luck with the bike and enjoy the whole rebuild process, my mate nearly bought it
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Hi Pete. Have a good read of 3MA mods by Louis, you need them to make it fly. http://www.tzr3ma.com/index.html
Will do, thanks. I've been reading up a fair bit over the last few weeks but I've got a lot to learn I think...
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Good luck with the bike and enjoy the whole rebuild process, my mate nearly bought it
Thanks, will do. I won't ask why your mate didn't buy it, in case I don't like the answer!
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Hi there
Just bought a 2MA to restore for the road, its been in Guernsey for most of its life and is complete but a bit of a basket. Looking forward to hopefully getting some good advice from the forum on restoration tips.
thanks in advance
Liam
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Welcome :) Post up a project thread when you start work on it (-P)
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Hello from Cape Town.
I have a TZR250 1KT (full resto) and a TZR125 4JB (current project). Also have an NS400R but this is not the forum for that.
Here is my 1KT.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VS2anXLeRyM/WZQ6zDw2BuI/AAAAAAAACPw/nWUjkNPN1FA-F_zgJ3bpS8A_QJQWtrqWQCL0BGAs/w424-d-h318-n-rw/complete2.jpeg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QCFq9iK6YnFfrkbmVdQhtk2Xpk0FMWnfHH5mompXYR1mTqo7W4R1ZBirI9ou5k4do_hVM1Ql4A=w640-h360-p-rw)
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Hi all - great forum! I am currently living in california, moving back to the UK in a year and planning to get a 3XV for track days at Cadwell. I used to race TZ350 and TZ750 in the UK and IOM back in the 70's. I raced against some famous names like Joey and Michael Dunlop, Carl Fogarty and Ron Haslam. Im getting old now but did 3 track days at Laguna last year on an RSVR and had a blast. I have a couple of RDs and an RZ350 for the raod and got the 2stroke bug again!
Anyway, looks like Ifound a great place for info! :)
Cheers,
Don
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Hi. I am now the proud owner of a 3MA-5 Until recently I never knew there was anything other than the regular one and the SP version... But I just bought this today so now I have to wait for it to be shipped from Japan....
(https://i.imgur.com/L4K1wDJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0wnlbiU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xBbggVl.jpg)
It seems to be in really good condition so lets hope it turns out to be as nice as the photos..
A bit of cleaning and a few little scratches to fix then re-plate a few bolts etc and it should be like new again...
(https://i.imgur.com/WskfXd2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rMJDLUa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SblSKJS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wa3b3Rs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IUQRQhU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oSok794.jpg)
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Very nice, where abouts in the world are you
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Oh Bugger... Yes.. Deepest darkest Leicestershite....
Cheers.. Looking forward to having a play on it when it gets here...
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How did you buy/ship it here I was looking into doing it last year but drew a blank unless I used a expensive broker
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Oh Bugger... Yes.. Deepest darkest Leicestershite....
Cheers.. Looking forward to having a play on it when it gets here...
Welcome to the forum
Have a look here for the 3MA5 info
http://www.characterdata.co.uk/TZR%20Manual/3MA3-4-5_workshop_manual_jp.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20080511154722/http://www.pure-2-stroke-spirit.info/node/12
http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?topic=67.0
http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?topic=142.0
http://pure2strokespirit.net/redandblueftp/download/
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How did you buy/ship it here I was looking into doing it last year but drew a blank unless I used a expensive broker
I found the bike myself on Yahoo Auctions. But used Drew Mori-man Jonsen who runs the Unobtanium page. He sorts it all out, although he does have a fee for his services, He will check the bike out and get it running for you then crate it up and organise shipping too.
Talk to Drew.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/unobtanium/
The TZR is the third bike I have had him sort out for me..
The others have been Suzuki RG's. Mk1 and a Mk3 Wally Wolf.
(https://i.imgur.com/ClTa9OY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bcyIOZv.jpg)
The RG Mk1 is in the photo but you can see he has loads of bikes he has sorted out for people.
The obvious thing is dont get carried away as you need to cover shipping and if you want a bike do not rush to get it. You should get one for your budget and a decent bike too.
Although I the TZR was a Yahoo Auction most of the bikes with buy it now prices are expensive. The other two were from auction houses not Yahoo Auctions.
https://jpcenter.ru/bike?lang=en
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How did you buy/ship it here I was looking into doing it last year but drew a blank unless I used a expensive broker
I found the bike myself on Yahoo Auctions. But used Drew Mori-man Jonsen who runs the Unobtanium page. He sorts it all out, although he does have a fee for his services, He will check the bike out and get it running for you then crate it up and organise shipping too.
Talk to Drew.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/unobtanium/
Drew has provided a good service to many, however others (read NSR owners) aren't quite so happy. He was hounded off one of the NSR Facebook groups. You pays your money you take's your chance.
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Cheers
I'd like a Rg400 like yours but might have missed the boat on prices
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Drew has provided a good service to many, however others (read NSR owners) aren't quite so happy. He was hounded off one of the NSR Facebook groups. You pays your money you take's your chance.
Drew is a bit sensitive and he has so much going on that he tries to leave one day a week to box up parts etc. If you have to wait a week or three for him to send stuff its because he is so busy. He has people who say he is expensive but at £300 to get the bike, check it over, get it running and prep it for export and crate it up and sort out collection and all the export stuff too... Its someone who is earning a living. I have people saying my fuel tanks are too expensive or have to wait too long. But break it down and no one bit is expensive its when you look at the final price it can seem a lot.
(https://i.imgur.com/GHlTRPy.jpg)
It takes 2 weeks to do a tank even though its only 5 days work in total time. But then there is materials etc etc... its when you break it down. Same with Drew and he protects what he does... Its his livelihood.
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Some of the brokers I spoke too were talking a grand + so drew seems like a bargain, good that he is a known quantity as well as nothing worse than the uncertainty of if what you bought will ever materialise.
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Some of the brokers I spoke too were talking a grand + so drew seems like a bargain, good that he is a known quantity as well as nothing worse than the uncertainty of if what you bought will ever materialise.
You see bikes imported on eBay and the seller may never have fired up the bike and say it has been stood and needs to be sorted. Drew checks them over and fires them up. If its a lemon you have the option to tell him to put it back through the auction. Like all auctions its a gamble but he does usually fire them up at the auction too so will know before you buy. Some though he knows it is being sold as a non runner but will have an idea why... Here he ran up a few bikes and my MK1 RG is one of them...
https://youtu.be/cTbG1qgQTfQ
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Hiyas, Currently own '89 TZR, Going through tidy up at the moment.
In Adelaide, SA.
Previously owned R5, RD 350's, RD 250's, RD400's, LC 350's, RZ 350.
Have loved smokers since late 70's..so old..yes.
Some good info gleened already.
Rockon.
Sidsnot (Paul)
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Welcome aboard,Hello creeps,sidsnot here:
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Blast from the past
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Hello, New member just showing my face!
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Hello! New member looking to get myself a 3xv soon, used to own a tzr125 about 10 years ago, now currently have a 2009 fz1!
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Greetings, all - another bloody Yank coming aboard. North end of the West Coast. Riding off and on since the eighties, dirt bikes and sport bikes. I've had a few 2Ts in my time, but nothing like this exotic. Mostly old dual-purpose bikes, etc. Not a racer, mostly in it for the sounds and aroma therapy. Fair-weather pleasure rides, etc. Modest mechanical skills.
I've recently acquired a '91 3XV fresh off the boat from the jolly auld land of the rising sun. Bit of a rat bike, but what the hell, as these bikes are cheap fixer-uppers, right? Not...
Good news is, it seems to run pretty well, starts easy, idles fine (a bit high?), rides nicely (Okay, okay... great motor! And brakes!). Electrics all work. Nearly everything visible is factory stock, exceptions being cans, grips, and some panels.
Less good is, needs presentable fairings (upper and sides), and we lost a mirror in shipping. Fork seals blown, on par for a bike that's been getting shipped around a lot. Both the carrier and seller have compensated me for the mirrors, so hard to complain there. Oh, and we'll need to get a title, too - hmmm.
Other than that, a bunch of disassembly, inspection, cleaning, and maintaining that'll get done over this winter. Been spending a lot of time recently gleaning the Web for info and sources, and will undoubtedly be looking to get some pointers from the crowd here.
You may have seen her on dear old eBay recently:
(http://www.nwfoureyebbq.org/images/P1020023sm.jpg)
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Welcome :) That looks like a very nice base to start with (-P) Post up a project thread when you get round to fixing her up 8)
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Hello chaps,
I’m not sure how this will go down but I have joined because I have several Yamaha’s, a 76 XT500, a 79 SR500 a 96 TRX850, and the ugliest bike ever a SZR660.
My plan is to fall in love with the SZR, it rides well, it drops into bends like a dream, it even sounds pretty good but it’s not pretty, it doesn’t even have a good side, no matter what your angle on it it’s a mess. I plan to change that and since the good bits come from a 3MA I think I best chat to you guys.
I love Big singles, have had the XT since my father came home with it in 82, the TRX (hmm not a single) I purchased in 2000, The SZR was purchased as a donor for my SR500 cafe racer project but I couldn’t bring myself to ruin two perfectly good motorcycles.
The SR is a good example but the SZR apart from being really ugly is quite tatty, has had several bodged paint jobs, questionable electrical repairs and a dodgy fuel pump. It all runs sweet and started on the button after nearly 5 years stood in the garage.
After much consideration I purchased a lythum battery filled a large syringe with petrol connected it to the fuel line and fired it up. I had removed all the body work years ago, the tank came off because I remembered the fuel pump didn’t work and I didn’t have enough fuel in the garage to fill it to the point where it would siphon into the carbs.
I have had a few small two strokes a FZ1E, DT175, Lambretta and a Vesp and possibly more but never a twin. I have considered buying TZRs, I did my research and fell in love with MA and XV but I have a full garage and a very ugly bike to wave a magic TZR frock at.
So it’s a SZR project but the SZR is basically a TZR 3MA chassis with a big 4T motor, it was built in the same Belgarda factory and shares many components. My plan is to build a street racer / track day bike, I’m not sure if or how I will add lights but I want to use TZ/TZR bodywork and maybe even add a high level exhaust system. I hope you chaps can help, as I hope to test your knowledge and experience as my project progresses. I need to think of a name for it.
I have had a quick look about, some cracking machinery on show and I am sorry to soil the carpet with the SZR don’t hold back, I won’t be offended.
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Hello all.
Just joined forum for first time.
TZR racer, in UK. Hopefully the location info will come up under my name!
Looking forward to next year already.....
Paul.
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Hi and welcome. Your location is all set up correctly which will prevent the "where are you from, it would help if you added your location" comments :P
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Hi from Bavaria in Germany!!!
My 3XV1 just arrived from Greece and I am so excited to take it apart and restore the baby to the original beauty it ones was! Came with 2 wet clutch engines and another set of carbs! Obviously has seen better days but I am confident to find all parts I need here or elsewhere... Supposedly the preowner passed away and there are no documents left... Is there anyone in this forum who got the German TÜV and documents for this machine? Also, has anyone seen this particular bike somewhere else before? Frame and engine numbers are matching and it is definitely a 3XV1 but the wheels seem to come from another year? ??? Also have some other projects in my garage that will be done before this one will be brought back to life. It runs though^^ Also I am thinking of either selling one engine and keeping one as spare, or keeping all and build a second 3XV bottom up? What do you guys think?
Regards from Florida (for work till january...)
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Welcome :) Looks to be fairly stock bar a few scratches (-P) Engine wise I would keep what you have as spares..
Make a project thread when you start. :)
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Doesn't look too bad for 26 years old. I've got the same paperwork issue as you - none! ?:-| C:-) Good luck!
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Hi i,m jarno from Holland
own a some good two strokes but would like to add a 3xv in the future.
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Hi!
I'm Joan from Catalunya(Spain) I want to learn with you about 3ma, and improve my bike.
Regards and FullGAS
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Hi, another new member here... I'm in Australia and have a 3MA as well as a TDR250...
The 3MA is fairly new to me and ive just done a top end rebuild on it and fitted some new chinese fairings... its a fairly clean bike but pretty sure it was a 'parts bin special'... its got 3MA-1 pipes, a 3MA-3 engine, 3MA-3 carbs and electrics and currently has some electrical issues so i haven't been able to ride it properly yet :( ... Ill do another post soon about the electrical gremlins... one day ill do a proper restoration on it using genuine fairings...
The TDR was bought in Japan and was very rough. Ive been doing a full restoration on it down to every nut and bolt. It wont be a full factory restoration but pretty close, maybe 90% true to original form. Hopefully it should be finished within a month or so...
I also have a workshop specialising in 2 strokes only... mostly focus on dirtbikes but I do some road stuff occasionally. Got a dyno and a range of CNC machines. Definitley keeps me confused and out of trouble :)
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I also have a workshop specialising in 2 strokes only... mostly focus on dirtbikes but I do some road stuff occasionally. Got a dyno and a range of CNC machines. Definitley keeps me confused and out of trouble :)
Great. Where are you and what is the name of your workshop.
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I also have a workshop specialising in 2 strokes only... mostly focus on dirtbikes but I do some road stuff occasionally. Got a dyno and a range of CNC machines. Definitley keeps me confused and out of trouble :)
Great. Where are you and what is the name of your workshop.
Its called Two Stroke Performance and I'm in Victoria
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Is It your facebook page ?
https://www.facebook.com/TwoStrokePerformance/ (https://www.facebook.com/TwoStrokePerformance/)
Olivier.
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Is It your facebook page ?
https://www.facebook.com/TwoStrokePerformance/ (https://www.facebook.com/TwoStrokePerformance/)
Olivier.
Yep that's it :)
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I'll share on my facebook.
A same, I'm too far from you !!!
Shipping cost will be a killer :(
Olivier.
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I'll share on my facebook.
A same, I'm too far from you !!!
Shipping cost will be a killer :(
Olivier.
I'm getting a lot of engine from overseas now... mostly dirtbikes though... the roadbikes are more just my personal interest.
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Hi from Bavaria in Germany!!!
My 3XV1 just arrived from Greece and I am so excited to take it apart and restore the baby to the original beauty it ones was! Came with 2 wet clutch engines and another set of carbs! Obviously has seen better days but I am confident to find all parts I need here or elsewhere... Supposedly the preowner passed away and there are no documents left... Is there anyone in this forum who got the German TÜV and documents for this machine? Also, has anyone seen this particular bike somewhere else before? Frame and engine numbers are matching and it is definitely a 3XV1 but the wheels seem to come from another year? ??? Also have some other projects in my garage that will be done before this one will be brought back to life. It runs though^^ Also I am thinking of either selling one engine and keeping one as spare, or keeping all and build a second 3XV bottom up? What do you guys think?
Regards from Florida (for work till january...)
HI Jannis, I'm from Hanau close to FFM. We can talk a bit per phone if interested (when your back from US). Just send me a PM
regards
Juergen
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Hello all !
Owned a 350ypvs when i was in my 20's, moved on to big four strokes but missed the smell/sound of a two stroke twin on full throttle ! No at the other side of 50 have gone and took a TZR 250 rebuild project on. only have a rolling chassis to work with, mechanical, electrical skills no problems there, and lucky for me have a friend who owns a bike shop. Hopefully will try to post my progress up as i go along :D
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Hello all
Impressive Forum, never used a forum before so just navigating around and getting a feel for it
returning to the road scene after eight years MX ing Yamaha of course, sold one of my lads MX bike's and deftly slipped a little 3XC into the gap.
back soon
Paul
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Hello everybody,
I'm new here. I'm a French guy looking for some information about TZR 125 4FL. :))
Indeed, after several 4 strokes motorbikes (600XTE, ZX7R, ZXR750R M type, ZXR400, DR600, and currently 400 GSF), I will probably buy a 2 strokes. And that should be a TZR125.
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Welcome on board ;)
Fill you location in your profile.
Olivier.
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Done ;)
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Hi and welcome
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Done ;)
French 2 strokes forum with also valuable people ;)
http://forum.2temps.fr/ (http://forum.2temps.fr/)
Some are also on-board here.
Olivier.
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Thought would pop by and say hello. Been reg'd for a while reading up on various topics.
On the lookout for a 3XV so don't have a TZR in the stable as yet. Last time I had one was way back in 88 I think.
Seems to take forever trawling the Jap auctions.
Ideally after an SPR to add to a few other 2T's:
RG500
NS400R
Aprilia RS250 (MKII)
Vdue
KDX220R
Anyone else down in the SW part of the world. Looking for somewhere not to far away who will take 2T's on a dyno.
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Hello,
My name is Luis, from Spain. I buy a 3xv-01 and i will restore it.
Thanks
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Bienvenido! Fotos por favor...
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Hello,
George from Greece here!
Thanks for all the good info!
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Greetings all.
What a great forum.
Decided I need a new project and hankering after a 2 stroke to relive my teenage years!
Been looking extensively at the 250 3ma as I really like to stance and look with the reverse cylinder set up
Ideally, I'm after a project, a box of parts would be ideal, so if anyone has anything then let me know
Cheers
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Hi and welcome. I don't have a 3ma for sale but top marks for filling in your location ;D, this helps loads for anyone that might have something for sale.
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Welcome aboard
As with all projects try and get the most complete bike you can, as both the 3ma and 3xv were not UK bikes you may find it harder getting any missing parts,
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Hi all, looks like an interesting forum, I'm currently in the middle of a TDR rebuild but I'm looking for a TZR to keep it company (Spaces in garages need to be filled) I'm in the NW UK.
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Further to my last post looks like I have managed to source an SPR in standard form.
so next on the list would be to de-restrict it.
from doing some research, mainly on here, am I right in thinking I need pipes specific to an SPR only, 3XVC.
And are the barrels, porting and crank the same as the SP, so I don't need to bother with porting etc.
Which just leaves the CDI. Which seems more of a challenge.
Cheers,
Chris
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Welcome everybody (-P) :)
Bims - post up some pics in project thread or gallery (-P). Pipes are spr specific. Some use the cast iron stock flange and some do away with it and use a 3 bolt flange similar to the sugo setup. Porting and crank are the same as SP yes. Cdi wise you'll need a 7k sugo or zeeltronic. Both will disable the 2 stroke oil solenoids so you'll need to go premix; back to a mechanical pump or wire the stock cdi in tandem with the sugo/zeel. :)
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Welcome everybody (-P) :)
Bims - post up some pics in project thread or gallery (-P). Pipes are spr specific. Some use the cast iron stock flange and some do away with it and use a 3 bolt flange similar to the sugo setup. Porting and crank are the same as SP yes. Cdi wise you'll need a 7k sugo or zeeltronic. Both will disable the 2 stroke oil solenoids so you'll need to go premix; back to a mechanical pump or wire the stock cdi in tandem with the sugo/zeel. :)
Cheers Ybk. As soon as it arrives will do. Shouldn't be long now hopefully. Thanks for confirming the de-restriction info and pipe info. Yes, I read about the 2T solenoids and saw a thread where someone ran stock cdi in tandem with a sugo/zeel.
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Mark on here will get us some detailed pictures of how his is setup with the 2 cdi's once he gets his bike back :)
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Mark on here will get us some detailed pictures of how his is setup with the 2 cdi's once he gets his bike back :)
(-P) (-P)
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Hello guys,
my name is Marc and I´m now an owner of an 91 3XV. I´m living in bavaria/ germany. I will need some help/ informations from you in the next time.
An maybe sometimes I can help anyone else! 8)
So this is my bike!
Best regards
Marc
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Welcome on board.
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Hi and welcome :)
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Welcome 8) Looks like a very nice condition bike (-P)
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The paintwork is ok. But on the technical side, there is something to do.
This will be a winter project.
Thanks for the nice welcome.
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Hello!
My name is Duane, I am located close to Montreal. I have owned and enjoyed riding several Yamaha 2 strokes.
I am just getting familiar with the TZR bikes now and will be needing a little help sorting out a 3XV.
Looking forward to getting to know some forum members and sharing some info.
Here are a couple of current projects. http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/Smileys/default/grin.gif
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Hi. I’m Russell from Inverness. Just bought this. I worked on bikes for a living in the 80s & 90s, I’ve got a CB1300, a few 70s Hondas and two LC’s. Really pleased with this wee bike. So well put together and easy to work on thus far. It’s done 13,000 miles, had 3 owners from new and last guy had it 28 years! I’m surprised how quick it seems to be. Had the speedo indicating 115mph on the flat the other day? So far I’ve cleaned the carbs, fitted new float needles and seats and established that the stator winding insulation is shot and the fuel tap isn’t shutting off (seem to remember that same issue trashing RD500 engines back in the day). I’ve also discovered (after I’d been out whipping it) that the air filter element is missing, and it’s on 230 mains which I believe is standard so I probably came close to holeing a piston! I’ve managed to source a stator via the LC forum so hopefully get it charging soon. It’s got non resistor spark plugs in and I seem to recall a Yamaha bulletin when YPVS came out about needing resistor plugs to prevent interference in the powervalve controller. I’ll post some updates as I go.
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Hi. I’m Russell from Inverness. Just bought this.
Welcome! That's a nice rarer color scheme scheme for that 2ma 8) Definitely the type of bike you want to get is the one that's been pampered by an owner for 28 years ^-^
Here are a couple of current projects. http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/Smileys/default/grin.gif
Nice 3XV4, I have one as well, my favorite color scheme..or maybe the 3xv8 scheme, depends on the day :))
Open a project thread when you get round to them. (-P)
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Hello. I've got a running and roadworthy R1z and an unrunning, unroadworthy and unregistered TDR250 here.
And I really do live in the Hebrides, and it's windswept.
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Nice and welcome :) (-P) what are your plans with them? Post up some pics if can.
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Hello everyone, I'm a new member and I'm in Italy. I have a TZR 125, a TDR 125 taken a few days ago and a Yamaha RD 350, unfortunately model 2UA, and then a Tmax that I use to go shopping and load the bottles of water .... no wine because it is made of glass there is a risk that they break :-)
This is the first forum dedicated to the TZR that I found, unfortunately in Italy this bike arrived a bit too late, as well as the TDR, Maybe when they discovered that it did not have a Yamaha engine but a Minarelli engine, many preferred other types of motorcycles that genuinely had more performances. A friend of mine gave us the Sport Production but unfortunately, Aprilia, Gilera and Honda and Cagiva Mito were stronger but the TZR had a great chassis so much so that it is the favorite to do some specials, like the TZR / RD 350 and the the same frame mounted the 660cc which unfortunately did not have the sound of the 2T.
I hope to have some advice on these two bikes, TZR and TDR, to remind them how it was no more than 20 years ago.
Hello
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Hi and welcome (-P) :) Post up some pics of your bikes 8)
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Hello, I just have to understand how the photos are posted, then I will put photos of my bikes.
The TZR is being assembled, while the TDR is being dismantled! I hope to be able to recover it, little by little I think I will do it with your help and your advice.
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Hi, I'm new to the forum but have read through some of the posts in the past. I'm a huge two-stroke fan and have a few TZR250s, as well as NSRs, KR1-S, VJ23.
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Here are some pics of my TZRs. Not shown is a 1992 TZR250 SP and a 1995 TZR250 SPR. I'll post pics of those soon.
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Welcome! Very nice selection of models :o You don't see the later R models like that often.
Let's see the SP and Spr as well :) (-P)
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Not the best pics, but they will have to do. 1992 SP, 1995 SPR.
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A friend of mine also has a 1992 SP. I'll see if I can get some pictures to post.
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Not so new member here I’ve been lurking a while now but have just treated myself to a early xmas present in the form of a 3ma yay!
Most will recognise the bike as a current members so hopefully I’ll do him proud and finish the bike.
Merry xmas all
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Nice project :) What are the plans for it?
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It doesn’t need much just a few little bits to finish and then get her running right, it’s originally a 3ma5 with some sp engine/ignition parts and 3ma1 forks.
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Another newbie here.
Taken a 3ma in original cyan paint (and an RGV) as a px for my LC hybrid (hi Phil)...
Hope to post some pics soon.
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Nice one and welcome
The best colour 3ma for me
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Another newbie here.
Taken a 3ma in original cyan paint (and an RGV) as a px for my LC hybrid (hi Phil)...
Hope to post some pics soon.
You def got the best colour 3MA. My mates furious, he had his eye's on it..... Was this deal option C or D ?
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Hello
I connect here to help a friend to sell his stock of spare parts.
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Hello All,
I registered here in 2014 and been lurking ever since. I'm in Ireland and closer to 50 than 40!
I dont actually have a TZR but did own a 3MA before back in the early 90's, pic below.
It was an absolute beautiful bike but it broke my heart, holing pistons.
Anyway I still have 2 strokes and will be looking to get a 3MA again sometime.
So i'll keep lurking, I wont have too much input, I'll leave that up to the TZR Experts.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RKaC-n4fj5Y/VSGBMT_A8zI/AAAAAAAABD8/XEEWF1aOK4U/s1600/may-1994.jpg)
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Hi and thanks for the ad from here in the UK
I have an RZV500R. Over 30+ years after I had a new RD500LC here in the UK
It's my first bike since August 1993 when mt DT175 was stolen
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Welcome :) post up a pic if you have some handy (-P)
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Love that color/graphic design.
This is without a doubt the most helpful place on the internet for TZR fans. Show respect. Get respect.
Welcome.
Steve
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Hi
Just joined the group!
I am currently living in Japan and just get a running 91 3XV with some cosmetic and maintenance job. O:-)
Will surely have lots of questions!!
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Welcome on board ;)
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Hi All,
I just joined, thanks for having us. We are both bikers and my other half has a few projects on the go so I always fancied a TZR back in the 80s so he has built one from an ebay basket case, which was literally in boxes. We are hoping to get some assistance with this one as getting it going is proving harder then expected.
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Hi there all,
I am a second time owner of a TZR250 2MA, the first one I bought in 1987 when it was just three months old for £1850 (although it was slightly scuffed) and was the second of many race bikes, I have many happy memories of racing it every weekend in the very popular at the time 250 production class.
After 20+ years of racing mostly on larger 4 strokes I have now bought myself another TZR250, the same as my original but a bit newer and a lot more expensive!
I bought it off a genuine bloke near Nuneaton and picked it up last week and bought it back home to the Isle of Man where I have the perfect testing ground right on my doorstep.
I rode it for the first time yesterday, and I think I have a few things to sort out on it, It has a set of 1KT YEC race pipes, which sound great but the performance seems a bit restricted, I canned it over the mountain and just squeeked a ton out of it (and that's being optomistic)
I will be looking over past posts before deciding which issue might need dealing with first, then over the winter I intend to do something with it, to what extent I am undecided but that will be more conversations looking for experienced opinions.
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Hi everyone, i'm Nuno and have this strange passion for 2 stroke bikes ^-^
This is my presentation:
I live in the south of Portugal near this big sea port, called Sines.
Since 2013 i've been importing this Japanese bikes, mainly through UK because Portuguese taxes from ouside EU are very very hi, so i bought the bikes from dealers in UK, with British plate, and here they are.
In the garage i have a 1991 Yamaha TZR 250 3XV, a 1991 Honda NSR 250 MC21, a 1991 Suzuki RGV 250 VJ22 (this came from Germany), a 1991 Gilera Crono 125 (bought in Valencia, Spain), a Yamaha DT 125R from 2003, a Portuguese 1989 Famel XF 17 Super with 50cc Zundapp engine, a 1985 Portuguese Macal M83 with an Italian P6R engine (still in recovering project), a 2003 scooter Yamaha Aerox 50cc, and the last aquisition, a 1990 Yamaha R1Z 250 witch is still in things to complete. Th next project will be a 3MA... ::)
I will try to put photos of some of the bikes, sory for the quality (Chinese phone...).
I hope i can learn a lot with all of you here, as i'm just a courious and a weekend mechanic.
And when i'll be authorised, i might need to buy some parts tha i'm needing.
For now, all the best to you guys.
Regards, Nuno
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Sorry for the previous post, did'nt know this one for presentation, please dellet the previous. Thank you.
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Hello From West Cornwall UK.
Been into 2 strokes forever, at 16 it all started with a NSU Quickly.
In recent years TDR250 then 31K.
In last few weeks a R1Z & still own a YDS5E bought in 2002, just fitted new crank, bought from US in 2003.
Sold lots of bikes should not have & bitterly regret, the TDR & the 31K just so much fun, smile on your face with every ride.
Cheers guys Keith
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Hi Tereave here. Thanks for the add.
Have started riding 2 strokes 20 years ago. And currently, would like to continue to look for one so re-live the 2stroke days.
Currently hoping to own a NSR250 (MC28) in USA California. If anyone know where to get one, please ping me. ^-^
Bikes owned:
Yamaha RXK125
Yamaha RXZ135
Honda NSR125R
Honda NSR150SP
Aprilia RS250 (current)
Honda RVF400 (NC35)
Yamaha R6
Yamaha R1
Ducati SFS (current)
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Hi Tereave here. Thanks for the add.
Have started riding 2 strokes 20 years ago. And currently, would like to continue to look for one so re-live the 2stroke days.
Currently hoping to own a NSR250 (MC28) in USA California. If anyone know where to get one, please ping me. ^-^
Bikes owned:
Yamaha RXK125
Yamaha RXZ135
Honda NSR125R
Honda NSR150SP
Aprilia RS250 (current)
Honda RVF400 (NC35)
Yamaha R6
Yamaha R1
Ducati SFS (current)
If you want a Yamaha you are in the right place
If you are after an NSR join an NSR group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1015831035123093/
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Hi Tereave here. Thanks for the add.
Have started riding 2 strokes 20 years ago. And currently, would like to continue to look for one so re-live the 2stroke days.
Currently hoping to own a NSR250 (MC28) in USA California. If anyone know where to get one, please ping me. ^-^
Bikes owned:
Yamaha RXK125
Yamaha RXZ135
Honda NSR125R
Honda NSR150SP
Aprilia RS250 (current)
Honda RVF400 (NC35)
Yamaha R6
Yamaha R1
Ducati SFS (current)
If you want a Yamaha you are in the right place
If you are after an NSR join an NSR group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1015831035123093/
Thanks for the link. Doesn’t matter what brand of bikes I am looking for. Here to make friends and learn more on 2strokes. (-P)
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Hi everybody!
Just brought a 89 3MA in UK (Minehead), and very happy to find this forum.
The bike is only 1100km, but need some small restoration (filter, rust, and fuel tank very rusty.
By the past i owned almost only 2 strokes, beginning by rs aprilia (96 50, 99 125, 99 250), and 2001 5KE TZ (what a machine).
Now i’m planning on finishing my two cagiva mito, and of course the TZR.
Very scared about jettings and stories i’m reading, but in love with this bike.
I’m in south of France, hope to make one day a trip with others TZR.
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hi Fabien, nice bike you have there, some of mines also came from UK. Good luck with it. I might buy one 3ma this winter, we can swap experiences of our bikes. stay cool
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Hi everyone, hope I am doing this right. I'm a Japanese grey market junkie. Lived in Japan for a bit in the early 90's, started the addiction when I bought a 1987 FZR400 and rode all over Tokyo. 20 years later and a lot of research my goal was to have one of everything that I thought was cool looking and not common here, still working on that. Looking to share some info, learn more and sell some of my bikes to buy others and do different things. I have had a few TZRs but I only have one now, 1992. I have never ridden it but I am thinking of selling it and some others because I have too many bikes to tend to and in the last year I got into enduro and MX riding, mostly MX riding, 2017 YZ250F. Got crazy bored the last 6 weeks nursing my fractured collarbone... price to play I guess, depressing as I was having so much fun!!! I am sure I am not alone on here. Look forward to meeting some follow bike lovers. Thank you.
Current:
1992 TZR250
1992 NSR250SE
1992 CBR400RR
1988 FZR400
1992 RGV250
1989 FZR1000
1988 CBR250R
1992 NSR250SP
1989 KR-1S
1989 KR-1R
1972 RD350 R5
2014 FZ1
2010 WR250R
2017 YZ250F
Past:
1989 RGV250 SP
1986 RG400
1986 RG250 Walter Wolf
1989 NSR250
1990 NSR250 red
1990 NSR250 black
1991 NSR250
1991 TZR250
1989 TZR250
1984 KR250S
1984 GPZ1100
1982 KZ1000
1989 GPZ900R
1982 GPZ750
2005 FJR1300
2000 KX250 (2)
1975 KE175
1974 RD350
1975 CB500
1975 CB200T
1985 GS700E
1987 FZR400
1992 ZXR250C
2000 R1
Yikes! doing this list I think I have a screw(s) loose.
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Screw loose indeed, look at all those waste of time 4 strokes :-)
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Ha! maybe.. but the sound of a CBR250R turning 17,000rpm, like an indy car coming around the corner and yet you can get off and walk cause your only going 15mph...
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hi,
I'm Joris from Belguim. I like the old 80s-90s japanese sport bikes. So i also collect some of them.
this is what is in my garage:
honda:
-mini nsr50
-mini nsr80
-CBR250rr MC22
-Nsr 250 MC16
-Nsr 250 MC18 x 2
-vfr400 NC30
Yamaha:
-TZR250 3ma
Kawasaki:
-KR1 x 2
-KR1S
-kr1
Thanks to be a new member on this forum.
kind regards Joris
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I've been in the TZR forums since c. 2000 or 2001.
Me and the teezer last circulated the Pembrey circuit in 2003.
Since then its been eaten by rodents,moisture and time.
This year I finally bought some parts to put it back together (-P)
So as of ….NOW, I'll be in the shed pulling the primary gears off an old rusty blob, to reinstall on a nice wibbly blob. Cranks are better with a bit of wibble.
Jeez I was 20 when I built the bike last time......that was half my life ago :(
I used to know a lot more technical terms back then too, now its all metal-y bits held together with tiny helter skelter looking doodads....I.m sure it'll come flooding back soon :-\ .
Hope not to bother you guys too much, but i'm sure i'll need a gentle nudge here and there when things go wrong.
Toodles (-P)
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Hi Mojoracinguk.
Study a few projects for a quick lesson in terminology and maintenance. A project thread tends to follow a more logical progression than trying to read through the forum in general. Paul and Phil both have excellent, documented builds. I've got one that just finished. I was a lot like you. Lots of 2T experience, but it was 30 years old. Then I got a 3xv. Locked it up on a track day. The project is based on the rebuild.
Good luck.
Steve
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Hello to you all :D
I,ve hovered around the site for a while and finally bit the bullet and registered. I,ve been a Yam 2 stroke owner since 1982 (mainly aircooled RD,s) My Tzr ownership started early 90,s with a written off 250 2ma. I then bought an 88 tzr125 (brilliant bike) to get to work on as my RD400 got nicked. To cut a story short,after a drunken night out and wondering what to do with the written off 2ma and a parts mule RD I had left ...this was the result.
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Welcome guys (-P) That RD made me do a double take! Had to reread the description to figure out what's going on there! 8)
Hi everyone, hope I am doing this right. I'm a Japanese grey market junkie. Lived in Japan for a bit in the early 90's, started the addiction when I bought a 1987 FZR400 and rode all over Tokyo. 20 years later and a lot of research my goal was to have one of everything that I thought was cool looking and not common here, still working on that. Looking to share some info, learn more and sell some of my bikes to buy others and do different things. I have had a few TZRs but I only have one now, 1992. I have never ridden it but I am thinking of selling it and some others because I have too many bikes to tend to and in the last year I got into enduro and MX riding, mostly MX riding, 2017 YZ250F. Got crazy bored the last 6 weeks nursing my fractured collarbone... price to play I guess, depressing as I was having so much fun!!! I am sure I am not alone on here. Look forward to meeting some follow bike lovers. Thank you.
Current:
1992 TZR250
1992 NSR250SE
1992 CBR400RR
1988 FZR400
1992 RGV250
1989 FZR1000
1988 CBR250R
1992 NSR250SP
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Yikes! doing this list I think I have a screw(s) loose.
I think you have what we all want in terms of collecting bikes :o Really like that 3XV, I am quite partial towards that colour scheme, have a 3XV4 as well. (-P)
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Yos. A TZR user from Singapore. Morning to all, I don't know what to write here. But I just bought it in the beginning of this year when i just passed my license, cheers !
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Hi Guys,
Basically I'm not a bike rider, I race hovercraft, Have used the TZR 250 since 2005 lovely engine.
Recently finished modding a standard engine to accept RS125 reeds, 35mm carbs and 2XT barrels.
Times changing for me and im here to see if anyone wants any TZR items! Im off to the 4stroke world!
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Hi Guys,
Basically I'm not a bike rider, I race hovercraft, Have used the TZR 250 since 2005 lovely engine.
Recently finished modding a standard engine to accept RS125 reeds, 35mm carbs and 2XT barrels.
Times changing for me and im here to see if anyone wants any TZR items! Im off to the 4stroke world!
David,
Please post some photos of the TZR engined hovercraft if you have the chance, as well as photos and further details of the modifications you have carried out - I'm interested to see them and I'm sure other members would be too.
Thanks & regards,
James
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Hi Again Guys,
Thank you for the responses, and welcoming me to the forum,
Attached are pictures of my hovercraft, and of my home built TZR Hybrid :- It started life as a TZR 250 2ma Case, that was machined then to take custom intakes welded in, these housed RS125 V-force reeds. It also runs 2XT cylinders, With Mikuni TMX 35mm carbs as well.
I only had a days worth of running out of this set up so far, but we made power equivalent to my top end tuned TZR even in that limited time. Much more to come from it.
If there is any more interest I shall write in the project section.
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That's really impressive work there, now I understand what you mean about the engine being no use in a motorbike
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If there is any more interest I shall write in the project section.
Good stuff - thanks David. I for one would be interested in learning more about how you modified the engine, mounted it in the boat, fabricated the pipes etc. I'd also be interested to learn if there are any considerations applicable to using these engines in hovercraft which may not be applicable to their usual uses.
Regards,
James
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Hello,
My name is Ed fresh owner of a TZR 3ma , I would like to get it running again so crankseals and bearing need replacement.
I bought a set of Wossners but it seems the comp.height is 30mm instead of 30.50mm...does anyone no the comp. and dome height of a OEM 3MA piston ?
Thx,
Ed
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Hi people, I have a yamaha dt125r with some updates.. Im Portuguese and I hope to learn more about this beatiful engine.
:))
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Hi all,
Just wanted to say hello. I've not spent much time on the forum yet and still working it all out. I've got a blue TZR250 2MA which was my first ever bike after getting my bike licence. Its been a bit neglected for quite a few years having been set aside after moving on to bigger sized bikes but I never got rid of it. Glad I didn't! Hoping to get it back on the road, now, but its going to take quite a bit of TLC to get there. Got my carbs refurbished a Coln engineering in Gloucester. Nice guys. Carbs back on the bike. Waiting for a part for the air filter which I bought through Ebay. Once it arrives, I should be able to kick it over and see if there is still some life in the engine. Keeping my fingers crossed that all goes smoothly! Found some invaluable information on the forum. I've found it to be a fountain of knowledge for all things TZR!!
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Hi and welcome. Remember to fill in your location in your profile :)
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Thanks for the advice. Updated my location in my profile. :D (-P)
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Hello! my name is andres and I'm from Argentina. I own a 1kt. this is a great place for all of us who want to learn! Thanks a lot.
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Yes. Besides the wealth of knowledge from guys who've had these bike for almost 20 years, the camaraderie here is very strong. Some disagreements, but no vitriol or Facebook-like BS. Also, no politics, except maybe complaints about shipping anomalies and fees.
Welcome. If you read through the entire forum, there's older versions available. HA.
Steve
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hi steve,do you mean previous versions of the forum?
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Check here in the resources pages http://pure2strokespirit.net/ (http://pure2strokespirit.net/)
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thanks!
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Hello! my name is andres and I'm from Argentina. I own a 1kt. this is a great place for all of us who want to learn! Thanks a lot.
Welcome Andres - your TZR looks tidy. Did many TZRs arrive in Argentina or any other country in South America? How did you acquire yours? I have heard of Yamaha agent Venemotos in Venezuela, but I don't know whether any TZRs were imported. If you know anything about the history of TZRs in South America, please let us know!
Regards,
James
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hello james! for a time used units entered the country. you couldn't compare 0km. it is very rare to see tamaha tzr 3xv, but if there is more 1kt. and i think just a rz1. There is a person who has a large collection of Yamahas units in Argentina, you can find him on Facebook. his name is ernesto barello. regards!
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hi steve,do you mean previous versions of the forum?
Yes. Its called the "old, old forum", but many of the same experts are there. The TZR's are at least 25 years old, so the basic questions are still very relevant. http://pure2strokespirit.net/archive1/localhost/cgi-bin/ikonboard.html Its semi-interactive. A great resource.
Apparently, there was another Forum between this "old old" version and the one we have now. It was run by a guy named Ash. It mysteriously disappeared. The current Webmaster is ybk and he has posted that this Forum is backed-up on two separate servers. Warwick (Global Admin) may have more intel on the evolution of the this Forum. But, that's what I know. I joined in January of 2018.
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hello james! for a time used units entered the country. you couldn't compare 0km. it is very rare to see tamaha tzr 3xv, but if there is more 1kt. and i think just a rz1. There is a person who has a large collection of Yamahas units in Argentina, you can find him on Facebook. his name is ernesto barello. regards!
Thanks for the info Andres. I'm not a Facebook member, but I did manage to have a look at Ernesto's page - he does have a few Yamahas ;D !
I'm guessing that the Brazilian-made Yamahas were available throughout South America but (as you say) TZR250s were imported later secondhand from Japan. Please keep us updated if you have any more pictures of TZRs in Argentina.
Regards,
James
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Hi all
Here's my 3XV8 that I bought just over a month ago without realising there was quite a project lurking there.
I knew the bike had reconditioned cylinders, Wossner pistons and Jackal pipes but hadn't counted on the rest of the "needs some TLC". The list I had to tackle before this rideout today was;
Water pump seal.
Exhaust springs & seals.
Powervalue spacers and seals.
New battery.
New plugs.
Fairing repair & adding heat shielding.
Rear fairing piece.
Fuel tap repair kit.
New fuel cap.
New windscreen.
Original indicator dampers.
New chain & sprockets (rear sprocket and chain still on order!)
Almost everything I have done on this bike is to the credit of you fine folk in the forum, I can't thank you enough, and there's posts on most of the above which I'm sure some of you will recognise!
The best thing is, the bike sounds and smells (Castrol 2T) of the 1980's, but the steering and handling is very much 21st century :)
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very nice looking bike u have done a bang up job the eec number plate tickles me as im in eec ;D
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Very nice, Rich.
I’ll skip the welcome because we’ve been communicating for weeks, now. Glad you’re here.
The 3xv is always a work in progress. The joy (for me) is the direct experience of what you’ve developed. Don’t try this with a modern 4T without a machine shop and data analyst.
If you don’t have an SP crank, I recommend one. (New) Yeah, I know its expensive, but it won’t get cheaper. Mine lived through a heat-seize (due to a water line failure) and is still the heart of a strong running bike.
My best.
Steve
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very nice looking bike u have done a bang up job the eec number plate tickles me as im in eec ;D
Thanks smoke - the plate is very 90s :)
Very nice, Rich.
I’ll skip the welcome because we’ve been communicating for weeks, now. Glad you’re here.
The 3xv is always a work in progress. The joy (for me) is the direct experience of what you’ve developed. Don’t try this with a modern 4T without a machine shop and data analyst.
If you don’t have an SP crank, I recommend one. (New) Yeah, I know its expensive, but it won’t get cheaper. Mine lived through a heat-seize (due to a water line failure) and is still the heart of a strong running bike.
My best.
Steve
Thanks Steve :) We have been communicating indeed and thanks for your help getting me on the road with my 3XV. It has been daunting at times and without this forum I probably would have given up!
Interesting idea about the SP crank. The Wossner pistons sort the top end but it’s still the standard bottom end and should be up on standard thanks to the pipes. At least the SP crank is still available- for how long before it’s NLA is a question.... I’ll look into this, cheers!
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stay dedicated we need people to keep these beauties alive without us lot these will disappear and that musnt happen theres nothing around like them anymore will be nothing but electric bikes soon throws up
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hello james! for a time used units entered the country. you couldn't compare 0km. it is very rare to see tamaha tzr 3xv, but if there is more 1kt. and i think just a rz1. There is a person who has a large collection of Yamahas units in Argentina, you can find him on Facebook. his name is ernesto barello. regards!
Thanks for the info Andres. I'm not a Facebook member, but I did manage to have a look at Ernesto's page - he does have a few Yamahas ;D !
I'm guessing that the Brazilian-made Yamahas were available throughout South America but (as you say) TZR250s were imported later secondhand from Japan. Please keep us updated if you have any more pictures of TZRs in Argentina.
Regards,
James
hello james! yes! ernesto built a two floor building exclusively for his 2-stroke yamaha collection. on the first floor the single-cylinder and on the second floor the twin-cylinder! I share a short video of my 1kt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HcEJxYBoo and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cerjfx26bmM
regards!
Andres
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Thanks for letting me join the forum, I have just added a TZR to my collection and thought it would be good to sign up here to learn and share info.
This is my first TZR I have owned although I do have a few other strokers they are all older bikes. It is a 1KT and the pic was taken an hour after I got it home, just after I washed 16 years of dust and dirt off it. It was stored away since 2004. A few screws are missing from the fairing and the centre bit of the tailpiece just above the tail lamp is missing too... otherwise it seems mostly there. I have the carbs off to clean them and replace the fuel lines. It has coolant and transmission oil looks good. ( I will be changing the fluids before I ride it) Is there anything else I should replace / check before trying to fire it up ???
thanks
(https://i.imgur.com/h5n0ybb.jpg)
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very nice looking bike u have done a bang up job the eec number plate tickles me as im in eec ;D
so beatiful!!
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Is there anything else I should replace / check before trying to fire it up ???
If you are going to be using the bike without stripping the engine for inspection first, you may like to carry out a 'leak check' to ensure that no air can leak in through (possibly) deteriorated seals and gaskets. On the other hand, if you just want to start the engine to see if it works before stripping it, a leak check may not be necessary (you can do it after rebuilding).
It looks like your bike has early SP Tadao Jackal pipes...same as mine!
Regards,
James
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Thanks for the info on the pipes, I noticed they were different to a lot of other 1KT`s pics I found online, but then I found a couple of pics with the same pipes, I had thought maybe some came like that, but it`s good to now know what they actually are. Yes I just want to get it running to see if the engine sounds ok, then maybe I will do the crank and water pump seals I guess, and fresh fluids. I bought the bike without even seeing it ! I heard about it 3 years ago and had made inquiries about it, the guy said he wasn't selling, then last week I bumped into a guy who told me it was maybe for sale, I went around to see the guy and made a deal on the spot, then had to wait 4 days on him getting it out of his shed, it was buried away behind a lot of other stuff. It looked really bad when I went to pick it up and I was thinking maybe I had made a mistake, but after a good wash I was surprised how well it cleaned up.
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Welcome to the Forum. Your work on that K1T is crucial to keeping the 2T spirit alive.
I have a 3xv. It’s been a challenge, but when it’s right, there is no other bike I’ve owned that’s gives back the Love with more enthusiasm. I’ve owned 2 R-1’s for comparison.
Resurrecting this bike will be a huge job. My experience: Tear it down to essential pieces. Don’t skip the basics (seals and bearings), get the chassis sorted, tune your motor, then let her rip.
I discovered that starting a “Project” thread with good pictures gets the attention from the veteran/experts here. You WILL benefit from their advice.
My best.
Steve
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Hi everyone just joined the forum recently, thanks for letting me join, oh and I have a tzr250r 3xv,
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So do I. You’ve found the right place for friendly, insightful, detailed information.
There are guys here who’ve owned, ridden and modded 3xv’s for at least 15 years.
Read through the 3xv section and projects relating to this bike.
Don’t be afraid to ask questions.
Welcome.
Steve
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Hi
Thank you for the ad.
I am totally two stroke. I have built many hybrid/specials in the past.
I currently have a Tdr385, Yamagamma 350, Lc hybrid, Tdr250, building a Vj21 with ypvs385 motor.
Just bagged myself a total wreck of a 3ma
(https://i.postimg.cc/pd1nS83V/BF4-F79-FD-BE01-4-A9-B-9714-D54750-E1-DB1-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3ymR4yKz)
I am going to keep this one standard, strip it and build it back up with fresh motor and coatings.
Last on the road in 2001 , found it behind someone’s dust bins.
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Hey! Started racing again so here for tech advice, parts and general info
In UK.
The glorious North.
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Last on the road in 2001 , found it behind someone’s dust bins.
you lucky **** that's rite up my street. i have vivid dreams about making finds like that. make sure you show us the final product ill be looking forward to it. nice one
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Nice find Botty,
you have your work cut out there but it looks relatively complete.
You should find all the help and advice you need on here. :)
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Hi all, I have just joined the site and been having a look about and plenty of info on here.
I have a R1-Z250 I bought from D&K in April last year for 2k and spent a further £800 on rebuilding the engine from the crank up and registration costs.
Since then I have changed the shock for a yss one, Fork springs yss, some cheapo fork brace from Taiwan I say cheapo as it was cheap but actually works very well all I done to it was change the chocolate bolts for proper stainless ones, fitted Martin Johnson chambers with Tyga cans, fitted two 28mm tm carbs from dtr125's I now have air screws for fine adjustment, carbon reeds and removed the air box snorkel. I have set it all up with 260 main jets and 35 pilot jests and needles in standard central position.
The bike runs superb and really does fec of up the road stupidly quick for a 250.
The CDI is the 3xc-00 standard one for my particular model. Fitted a pair of Michelin power rs tyres which are superb.
As far as restoration goes all I have done is what I call an oily rag restomod, mechanically it wants for nothing but cosmetically could do with a revamp but I am not to interested in that yet, I have plans to search out big bore options but not had much luck yet, it seems there is no kits out there for the 1kt engines?
Forgot to add I changed the kilometres speedo for one from a TZR125 it only reeds up to 100mph but is a straight fit into the R1-Z clock casing and I can honestly say yeah mate it goes right off the clock
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Nice, welcome :) Looks like you started with the right type of mods (make it handle..)
Those pipes with the tyga cans look real nice 8)
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Hi all!
I am Magnus, from Copenhagen (Denmark).
Unfortionately, i dont have any pictures as i'm using my work computer. but pictures will follow soon :)
I just bought a TZR 250, but unfortionately it has been in a bad accident, and the subframe is bent a bid..
I allways have had a passion for twostrokes, and i am running a classic 50cc racing team here in Denmark, with 4 race bike, all of them are from the east german manufacturer Simson.
besides racing, i do have an RD350 from 1973, and a RD400 from 1976 and offcouse also an RD50 from 1980.
Looking forward to write with you all, and have a chat about bikes.
Kind regards
Magnus Zwicky Burkal
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Welcome to the forum Magnus, which model TZR have you bought?
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Good Morning & Hello...!
Thought I’d better introduce both me & the new bike for good measure and out of courtesy.
I got into bikes through Dads racing in 70,s & 80's mainly some noisy and awesome bikes of the era.
He raced Sidecars mainly, he had a works Yoshi GSX 1100 at one time if I remember right and also an F2 RD350 which took him to a TT podium with a local passenger named Gary.
My first bike I shared with my brother was a PUCH Magnum 50cc with some porting done and bigger jets so I could keep up with my Dads HondaXL trail bike in Wales. Then due to competition and often fisticuffs with my brothers to ride the thing Dad got hold of an Italjet50 which absolutely flew and a little Pewee 50 too, great fun... Following that I did some schoolboy competition trials in Cheshire & N.Wales on a twin shock 2-stroke Yam TY175.
I started an apprenticeship in 92 and was commuting on a Cub90 with 50 badges before I bought a grey import Honda cbr400 NC23 which was great fun racing our kid on his RGV250. This probably gave me an insight into Pure 2-Stroke power-bands.
I took up Sidecar passengering and would still fit it in if time allows without work getting in the way. My two brothers still race 🏁 doing well too. I now own a couple of bikes, including Triumph, Suzuki, Honda and now Yamaha’s again.
After racing Bandits and NC30’s with similar Bhp, I was on track often with a few ‘Blue Smokers’ and (during practices) would sit in behind them to recall the smells of my youth. Amazing that my enthusiasm for 2-strokes remained when I was seriously scratching to keep up with the Yams & Suzuki’s during the F400 & Forgotten era races.
Well if you can’t beat them, I thought....
So after much searching I first bought a RD350YPVS in surprisingly good nick as I wanted to give my Dad another project that helped him recover from a recent heart-scare.
Then a classic RD250 Aircooled rocket and now a Japan import TZR250 1KT...87..?
I’m really tempted to put the TZR on track but most likely it’ll just be a great little road bike... Looks like a lot of work just to clean the Yam up...!
Already realised some bits missing are also now obsolete but that’s half the challenge right..?
So I’m here to get some sound advice and guidance with the build.
I’m not brilliant at computers so apologies for the crap pics when added (DK specials).
I'll read on and reply as and when I'm not up to my elbows in oil...
Cheers,
SteveF...
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Welcome to the forum,there is plenty of information on here about the 1KT as I had 2 of them until the beginning of June when I sold my second one.
I still have some parts for sale on here and ebay and various other parts not listed.
I am in Denton,about 2 miles from you.
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Hey Teezer,
Denton, good to hear pal.
Yep, the build is gonna be a challenge.
Just finding space for the build and still collecting stuff all over...!
I’ll check out the Ebay stuff to thanks for the message... 👍🏼.
Ste.
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Just an introduction, Been lurking a long time. Starting to get acquainted with all the TZR bikes. My company is Tony Doukas Racing and we are beginning to produce specialty race products for the TZR here in the USA. gather up all the info and working to reproduce all the obsolete parts, mainly engine parts first.
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Hello,
Just joined. I am Terry from infrequently sunny NE Scotland and I have just acquired a 1988 2MA . She requires a bit of TLC and will be returned to her former glory. Been away from 2 strokes for a few years although I did have a kettle, 2 RG 250 gammas and an X7. I took a funny turn and sold em all about 5 years ago and have suffered from PTSD "Post Two Stroke Dread " since then. Got back into it last year with an RG 250 Gamma Mk 3 and now the TZR. Will be looking for hints, tips, suggestions and parts.
Will get some pics on soon as. It was bought online and has been delivered when I am still in snowy Azerbaijan working before coming home to run the Janette Krankie "Wee Nicola" COVID gauntlet and border crossing next week.. :)
Cheers
Terry
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Welcome to the forum Terry.
Nice to see you have taken the effort to fill in your profile with location,many new members don't.
Plenty of information on here regarding the 2ma and the mainly similar 1kt for you to look at.
TZR specific,resources,projects and for sale sections should be of great help in your quest to return it to its former glory.
I have had in the past 1 x 2ma and until last year 2 x 1kt's which I have sold due to arthritis in fingers and left hip pain.
Regards,Phil.
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Welcome, TDR. Do you know Jim Cannon? He referenced a dealer near him with a full service machine shop. At the time, that Florida shop was specializing in modding RD's. Could this be you?
Even if this doesn't describe you, the TZR NLA parts market is a good idea. Send pics and specs back to the Forum. We'd all all love to see your work.
Steve
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Hello! Tomasz Here!
I joined today, even though this is not my first post, a formal introduction is in order!
I have a 1990 TZR 125 3TY and love it. It has been 15 years since I had a 2 stroke so I am hoping that collective wisdom of all the awesome people here will make my tzr life a bit easier.
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Hi!
I made a deposit some days ago for a Yamaha TZR250 1KT and I should complete my payment by the end of the month.
This is, of course, a Japanese version, the very first model, that I will try to reshape in good form.
I cross my fingers into succeeding, as it is a model dear to my heart.
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Hi back to the fold after a while of being without a stroker, I’m a wrinkly having owned slightly over 155 motorcycles three quarters of em being 2 strokes. Used to have a pub and organised a two stroke Sunday once a month.
Probably had all of the grey imports in fact the only ones I missed was the rg500 and the bimota v due.
My fave was yamaha’s 3xv and with that in mind I picked up a nice looking example..peachy
Pleased with it initially..........
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Welcome to the forum, that looks tidy! you owned a pub and a load of 2 strokes,thats what i call living the dream!
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Cheers
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#twostrokelivesmatter C:-)
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Time to say hello all, after some time on the sidelines,
When I say 'new R1-Z' owner, I mean that I'm the new owner and not that Yamaha have secretly restarted manufacture. The machine that I've just acquired is a 3XC1, and the most recent 2T that I owned before it was an RD400 which I sold 39 years ago... One priority was to get something that I stand a chance of being able to pick up if it falls over, but in any event this seems remarkably similar to the old RD. Except for the CDI ignition. And the liquid cooling. And the monoshock. And the powervalves. And the crankcase inlets. And the tubeless tyres.
I've yet to run it on the road, as I still need to go over it properly to make sure that everything that should be tight *is* tight, and nothing that shouldn't be tight (chain mostly) is tight (chastened when I bought a YZF 750 and found that neither of the pad securing pins in one of the front calipers had an R-clip in it). Any observations or tips will be very welcome; to start with: the front wheel spindle threads into the L/H fork leg and is secured by pinch bolts on the R/H fork leg while the rear wheel spindle is secured by a nut plus locknut - no sign of castellated nuts and split pins. Is this how it should be?
Apologies for rambling on rather, and best wishes to all
Laurie
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...to start with: the front wheel spindle threads into the L/H fork leg and is secured by pinch bolts on the R/H fork leg while the rear wheel spindle is secured by a nut plus locknut - no sign of castellated nuts and split pins. Is this how it should be?
That seems correct Laurie. You may like to refer to a parts catalogue if you have any doubt about any of the bits and pieces fitted to your bike.
Here's a link to one of the on-line parts catalogues: https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dlya-motocyklov/yamaha/r1-z-8621/r1-z-19235/3xc1-720782 (https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dlya-motocyklov/yamaha/r1-z-8621/r1-z-19235/3xc1-720782)
If you'd like a genuine paper copy, you should be able to pick one up for less than 1000 Yen from Yahoo Auctions (although prices seem to have risen a bit over the last few years): https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/search/search?exflg=1&b=1&n=100&s1=featured&auccat=2084008714&tab_ex=commerce&ei=utf-8&aq=-1&oq=&sc_i=&exflg=1&p=3xc&x=0&y=0 (https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/search/search?exflg=1&b=1&n=100&s1=featured&auccat=2084008714&tab_ex=commerce&ei=utf-8&aq=-1&oq=&sc_i=&exflg=1&p=3xc&x=0&y=0).
A parts catalogue is available for each version (3XC1, 3XC2, 3XC3), but any of them will show you generally how things fit together on the R1-Z.
Regards,
James
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Thanks James, I've taken a look and I've also tried looking at images provided by my search engine of choice. All that has reassured me that I can swing a leg over without having to fret too much. The parts catalogue might well come in handy in the future too.
Best wishes
Laurie
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Sooo new battery fitted and it started ..so mot booked 15 miles away and off I trot.
Initial take off fail it bogged down easily and needed big revs...but under way ok if a little wooly
It passed the mot and They cooed over it.
Well through Stratford-on-Avon on the busiest day a Saturday it died... a push of a mile to the nearest go juice seller I disassembled it , to find a very dry no 2 plug , a quick tap of the carb and bingo the obstruction cleared ..coughing and farming all the way home(the bike not me)
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So let's start with a massive sorry to all the experts on the black arts of tzr ownership but hopefully noobs will feel not so bad...
A few days later I started to look into why the bike was so poor at low speed , gotta be carbs ? Drained the tank and found rusty liquid ....the carb float bowls too were gunk infested. So jets out oud care fully cleaned not forgetting pilot and emulsion tube. The air filters were cut from someones setee cushion. WHY they only cos 28quid genuine Inc postage.
This improved everything but finding the needle position was one position out for the year helped the pick up.
Eeek tank lined everything screwed together ...so glad I bought the jls screwdrivers. About to push the fuel pipe on ....and the nozzle came off ...where's the araldite...
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Ok petrol tap fixed, petrol tank internals coated, carbs cleaned, new air filters fitted, but hang on those exhaust flanges look rather large... eh up they’re SP collars and exhausts on my cooking R , god knows why, the bike came from Fastline originally and maybe it’s a bitsa, anyway with R pipes fitted and everything else bolted back on the bike ran like a stabbed badger ...in a good way.
20 mins later a puddle of petrol has appeared, I think it’s the carb floats I’ve tried to remove both pins ..no chance any easy way??? I’m too worried about braking the casting if I use force.
Oh I noticed my speedo has stopped working....it’s the bloody speedo drive it’s seized solid... it’s lucky I love this bike....doh
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Assuming you have TM38SS carbs, Max: Those float pins seem to come out easier one way over the other. I've forgotten which way, but the pin is something like a nail. The butt-end is sightly larger. You should be able to see the stub and push the pin from the other side. I usually just use a very small punch to get the pin moving. Go easy, it shouldn't take much pressure.
Good luck.
Steve
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Thanks Steve , yes it looks like a nail...only one way out, tried a couple of tiny Allen keys to push it out ...no luck heard stories of the casting braking so being ultra careful.
Fingers crossed.
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Yes. Be gentle with that pin, Max.
It's made of steel, so a bit of focused heat on the aluminum holders should be enough to coax it to move and then remove.
Even easier: Grab the stud on the pin with a pair of pliers and gently turn it. Then it should be free to push out with a small punch or similar tool.
Good Luck
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Hello from Greece friends i am happy to find the Forum thats my 3ma04sp
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Hello everyone,
I have been using 2 stroke bikes for my daily commute as they are still quite common here. The only common TZ here, is the TZM150 (4AP/4HF), as TZR 125/250 are considered prized collection items.
My current TZM is a 94, fitted with Battlax BT39ss recently.
Nice to be here.
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Hello everyone,
I have been using 2 stroke bikes for my daily commute as they are still quite common here. The only common TZ here, is the TZM150 (4AP/4HF), as TZR 125/250 are considered prized collection items.
My current TZM is a 94, fitted with Battlax BT39ss recently.
Nice to be here.
Remember seeing an article once of a TZM with a Yamaha WR450 engine (-P)
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Oh, that's another level. :))
Over here we could only fit an WR200 cylinder, without much any work on the lower case.
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GHello
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Hi all,
Another newbie joining the fold.
I've got a couple of VFR400 NC30's but this will be my first 2-stroke for many years. I'm in NZ and over the last few years they have become very hard to find and very expensive.
So, I've bought a recently imported 3XV1 from Japan, not registered here yet, that does run but is pretty rough.
I'm still in the early stages of rebuilding one of my NC's so this one will sit in the garage while I source parts.
I'm sure you folks and all you know will be extremely helpful.
My thanks in advance.
Duncan,
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Welcome to the forum Duncan, bike looks to be all there, the resources section has all the parts catalogues and workshop manuals etc. As you probably know theres no manual in English only Japanese.Good luck with the bike, start a project thread when you get going (-P)
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Welcome to the forum Duncan, bike looks to be all there, the resources section has all the parts catalogues and workshop manuals etc. As you probably know theres no manual in English only Japanese.Good luck with the bike, start a project thread when you get going (-P)
Many thanks for the welcome bulldogboy. There are some missing parts (mirror, screen, fairing centre 'V' piece) and there are quite a few damaged bits (pegs, fairings, silencers, tank, forks are pitted with rust etc.) and I'm sure I'll find more when I get to stripping it down. Apparently, like many bikes in Japan, it was parked up outdoors and simply left for several years.
My first major task will be reading through the forum and finding out who all the best parts suppliers are. Like so many things in life, it's who you know not what you know.
Thanks again,
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Here in the uk, we use webbs of lincoln ( 10% discount for forum members) and Fowlers, but there are others you may know weibike, yambits, cmsnl ? Im afraid that v piece has just become NLA, your best bet for one is yahoo auctions japan, but expect to pay a hefty whack for one, yahoo auctions is good for spares but taxes and import fees can turn a cheap item into an expensive item!
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Thanks again!
CMSNL and Weebike I've used a lot for the NC30's but I hadn't heard of the others. Most NC30 parts come from the UK too - in particular one bloke who's been a fan of them since the early 90's and who stocks every seal, bearing, upgrade kit and pattern part you can think of. I haven't tried Yahoo auctions for ages, mostly because the language gap made it almost impossible and most sellers wouldn't ship overseas. There used to be a British bloke living in in Japan who (for a fee) would act as an intermediary but I don't know if he's still going or if translation software has made direct purchase more doable. On that note, I'm surprised someone hasn't translated the workshop manual. I just had crack at the first 66 pages myself and while it's not great it sort of makes sense. If I had the patience I could go through it, translating with MS Word, line by line, but it would take a very long time.
That most parts (other than fasteners, washers, seals etc.) are NLA is no surprise. Most manufacturers only provide spares support for 20 years, so I suppose we're lucky that some things like bearing and seals don't all need to be EOM parts.
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On yahoo you need to use an intermediary service, like Rinkya, Buyee , they translate the pages your viewing on Yahoo, when you buy something through them, the seller sends it to Buyee say, Buyee then gives you packing and postage options, abd fowards the item to you.
Buyee wont ship items that have bee in contact with petrol or oil, but Buyee will, so i use a combination of both, Rinkya is more expensive though.
Last time i checked all the bearings seals and gaskets for a rebuild were still available from yamaha , although Dan ( maccas) on here ( gasket guru) provides all gaskets apart from head gaskets.
S.P cranks are still available new, but your standard R R.S crank can be rebuilt (-P)
I had an NC30 great bikes .
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Hi, I am a Big yamaha fan, racing them since 1981 short circuits and the Isle of Man. I raced TZ W, A, 4DP. I still have many TZ's and TZR's Love anything 2 Stroke.
many thanks Nick Turner. Devon UK
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Welcome. Please hang around. We can benefit from your experience.
Steve
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Hi, I am a Big yamaha fan, racing them since 1981 short circuits and the Isle of Man. I raced TZ W, A, 4DP. I still have many TZ's and TZR's Love anything 2 Stroke.
many thanks Nick Turner. Devon UK
Welcome to the forum Nick.
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Hello! New to the site after just picking up a TZR 250 SPR. She needs some love, so the resources here will be a big help.
My last Yam' was a 350LC back in the "good old days" and have since been pretty much 100% Ducati. I bought a NSR 250SP last year and the smell of 2 stroke has drawn me in to getting another, hence the SPR purchase.
Lots to learn, but it'll be fun! :)
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Welcome to the spr group just finished restoring mine this year.
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New guy here! Had a 3MA on a plinth in the lounge for over 10 years, always been too busy racing to recommission it but this is now the time! If anyone has a set of genuine fairing panels give me a shout, these look ace but are aftermarket
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Welcome Girth,
Nice bike mate.
I’d suggest that (if not already done) you look in the For Sale section (http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?board=7.0) and add another post in the Wanted section (http://pure2strokespirit.net/forums/index.php?board=8.0).
Best of luck,
Duncan
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Hello everyone I finally registered yesterday & thought I'd introduce myself to the people ^-^
I have been an off road head for years and had a total of 7 motocross bikes :
2006 YZ 250
2009 YZ 125
2013 YZ 144 (van de laar)
2012 YZ 250
2006 RM 250
2015 YZF 250
2015 YZ 125
you could say i'm a two stroke Yamaha rider ;) i had one four stroke and it was pretty good but missing the fun factor ...
When i lived in England (5 years in London & Surrey near woking), i got a Kawasaki AR 125 i can't remember if it was 86 or 87 but that thing was pure joy and took me everywhere over London & Surrey until one day the piston ceased and i decided to sell the bike for a go kart project.
This machine got me hooked on small cc two stroke road bikes tho
One day i had the opportunity to buy a friends 1999 TZR 125 4FL and bought it immediately without second thoughts ; that was such a great little bike , so nimble and flickable with great handling dna.
Unfortunately an old lady kamikazed me & the bike one day and i put her aside as motocross was draining all my budget back then.
Sadly she never got back on the road and i decided to sell her last year; great rebuild base tho with only 9500 kms on the clock a very healthy engine , body work and minor overhaul to get her going again.
But we can't keep them all isn't it...
After selling the 125 i purchased a freshly imported 1991 TZR 250 3XV1 with 21.000 miles ; from what I know she is bone stock with just a pair of aftermarket 'Cat House" silencers (that i don't really like).
She's now getting stripped out for a thorough cleaning and repainting of the parts that need it (wheels - rear subframe - small brackets & clips).
Mind you I think she's in pretty good shape for her age.
I intend to give her a second youth by refreshing the whole engine top & bottom end , rebuild the braking system for safety , service suspension and give the clamps fork & cockpit area a makeover; all bearings will be checked and replaced if necessary.
I am placing an order for the Wossner pistons group buy (-P)
Engine wise i will do some modifications ... nothing crazy ; sticking with the 28 mm carbs and air box with a light porting with pipes and i ordered a Zeeltronic CDI yesterday. Looking to get her in the 60hp ish area.
will upgrade the rear shock (thinking of YSS) and fork internals to better suit my heavy 6.1ft carcass and revive handling characteristics.
I am now after an SP crank if anyone knows of one selling please hit me up !
aaaaand i pulled the trigger & purchased a 1990 TZR 250 3MA3 last week :D
She will get on the boat pretty soon and i can't wait to meet her ! More on that later ...
Voila , i would like to say that even on my Mx days Pure2strokespirit has always provided me with great product feedback and most importantly some valuable technical info and advice so it's a great pleasure to join this community.
Cheers 8)
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Hello - new member here and new to the 3MA, Pretty rare bike in New Zealand, helping a mate rebuild one that blew up 20+ years ago. Looking forward to tapping into the collective knowledge.
Some of my toys in attached Photo.
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Welcome to the forum. Good to see another kiwi on here. Whereabouts are you based?
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Hi - thanks for the welcome. Based in Cambridge.
Cheers.
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Hi. Am a new member of this forum.
I own a couple of TZR250 1KTs
Starting rebuild of a 3MA
Love my two stroke Yamahas
1973 RD350
1989 RD250LC
1984 RZ500
1987 SDR200
1981 YZ465H
Have quite a few 70s and 80s Japanese motorcycles in my collection
Lots of NOS Yamaha and Kawasaki parts too from that era.
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Hi. Am a new member of this forum.
I own a couple of TZR250 1KTs
Starting rebuild of a 3MA
Love my two stroke Yamahas
1973 RD350
1989 RD250LC
1984 RZ500
1987 SDR200
1981 YZ465H
Have quite a few 70s and 80s Japanese motorcycles in my collection
Lots of NOS Yamaha and Kawasaki parts too from that era.
Welcome. Can you post some photos of your TZR 1KTs? Also the SDR please :) (I've got one as well).
Regards,
James
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Hi James. Thank you for the welcome. Pics to follow.
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Nice rides. I miss my original RZ 500. But that seat is what cooked my prostrate I believe. Good luck with the 3MA. I am 1 year in and still not running. I am sure you know where to locate parts. All the rebuild kits have all seemed to fit and function well. The front brake caliper seals were incorrect size but it was a packing error. It was taken care of. Sad no English manual for the bike. I would be happy to donate for someone to get it translated. A group investment could make it happen. PM or ask on site and I will let you know anything I can on my build. Nice to know what other people have found before making a mistake. Glad you are here and good advice is always available.
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Thanks rz500guy. Good luck to you finishing your build. I have checked out some of your posts. Yes great advice to be found on this forum!
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Welcome and stay safe
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Hi James. Thank you for the welcome. Pics to follow.
Thanks for posting those photos - nice tidy bikes!
Regards,
James
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Sad no English manual for the bike. I would be happy to donate for someone to get it translated. A group investment could make it happen.
Translating a whole manual would be very expensive unless you can get someone to do you a BIG favour. However, all is not lost.
Much of the information in the workshop manuals is basic stuff. A lot of the details in the specification tables are actually English words written using katakana characters, which can be fairly simply translated by referring to the 50 Sounds Table (find it on the internet). For example, the word 'crankshaft' is represented using a string of syllables in katakana: ku-ra-n-ku-si-a-fu-to.
Kanji are more complicated to decipher and it can take about half an hour to translate one medium-length sentence (well, that's how long it can take me :-[ )...and even then some of it may not make sense! The easiest way is to use some kind of 'mobile device' (e.g. smart 'phone, tablet etc.) with Google Translate installed (I'm sure there are other applications which do the same thing). Some offer a real-time translation, but this can be annoying because the translation sometimes changes as I move the device about. I find it much more satisfactory to capture an image of the text and then highlight the parts I want to translate.
One thing which may also be helpful is to write down and learn the kanji characters for the the various wire colours - this will make scrutinising the monochrome wiring diagrams much easier and you won't have to keep reaching for the mobile device.
I consider myself a semi-Luddite, but I can use the Google Translate application OK - I'm sure you can too! I am no expert, but I'd be glad to help you further if I can.
Regards,
James
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Thanks for info. A lot of the info translate from my TZ manual. Some of the tourque specs I use from the TZ also. Looking like anothe month before all parts are back here.
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We’re a bit off the intended topic of this thread but, regarding translations from Japanese, when I first bought my 3XV SP I made a start on translating the workshop manual. I’d firstly note you need a good, clear scan to PDF. I then ran it through Adobe to make the text ‘readable’ and then exported it to be a Japanese Word document and ran it through the Word translation function to English. I also ran the Japanese version through Google translate and two other online translation apps. Some worked well for some phrases and others worked better for other phrases. With four translated versions to compare I could work our what about 90% or more of it said. The syntax was often jumbled but, in context, it was understandable. I was then re-writing the whole thing as a new Word document line by line into coherent sentences and copying/pasting images from the original. I got about 30% of it done when Karel (YBK on here) finished his translation for his SPR, which is now in the 3XV section of the resources page, so I stopped. I’m not sure how Karel did his but, while it’s obviously a lot of work, it can be done, or at least done to the point where you have a fairly useful document.
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Would be nice to have a good readable manual. A lot of mistakes would not have been made. Even the pictures are sometime difficult to follow. It is tough with an old bike that has most likely been apart before and you never know if what you now have has been assembled correctly. Love the bike but would enjoy it if I could ride it.
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Hello,
Happy to find this forum, I rebuild a 3MA for road and fun.
Have a nice Christmas Day.
Matthew
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Like it.
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Hi Everybody,
First of all, What a great forum. I've been looking around for about 5 mins and have already found answers to a few of my questions.
Today I finally bought a 1991 3xv that's in serious need of some love and care and is currently on its way to the Netherlands. Unfortunately I work abroad so will only be able to see it in the flesh in April but at least Ill learn how to be patient.
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Hey Gents, Gary here from Dublin ,currently relocating to Hungary. Used to briefly race a 3ma tzr and have a road going one covered in the back of my garage that I want to get back up and running.
Great forum with plenty of information,thanks to everyone who contributed!
Happy easter to all of ya!
Cheers
Gary
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Welcome and plenty of help here
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Welcome to the forum.
Nice looking 3ma
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Hi Everyone, just signed up having been lurking for a while. This looks a great forum with loads of info which will be of much use during my upcoming 3XV2 build.
Matt
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Hi Everyone, just signed up having been lurking for a while. This looks a great forum with loads of info which will be of much use during my upcoming 3XV2 build.
Matt
Welcome Matt.
Maybe consider perhaps starting a new thread for your build under "Projects" ?
Not only could it help others doing a similar build but also would enable members to add knowledge nuggets on subjects as you approach particular build sectors.
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Hi Everyone, just signed up having been lurking for a while. This looks a great forum with loads of info which will be of much use during my upcoming 3XV2 build.
Matt
Welcome Matt.
Maybe consider perhaps starting a new thread for your build under "Projects" ?
Not only could it help others doing a similar build but also would enable members to add knowledge nuggets on subjects as you approach particular build sectors.
Yes will do, once I actually make a start! It was good to meet you on Saturday (-P)
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HI a quick hello to everyone just purchased a 3xv 1 being new to two stokes so a lot to learn great info site bound to be a few questions
on my latest bike journey .
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HI a quick hello to everyone just purchased a 3xv 1 being new to two stokes so a lot to learn great info site bound to be a few questions
on my latest bike journey .
Hi Ken71.
Welcome aboard. There’s a wealth of technical knowledge on here amongst the guys and plenty of useful data. Many of the questions you may have would certainly have arisen before so fire away.
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Welcome and plenty of info. Look on the pages before just asking some of the simpler question that you should hopefully know before such a purchase. Everyone is great and a lot of good info. Do not try to reinvent the wheel. And if you decide to squeeze every bit of power out of it you might thing of getting a real TZ. Heard a lot of good with those bike, do not ruin it.
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Hi guys and girls. Currently in Fort Wayne Indiana, I have a ‘90 3MA here with me. Got a couple 3XV’s at a relatives house in Wisconsin and another in California. Got my first TZR250 back in 1993.
josh
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Here’s a couple of pics :)
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hi josh , nice bike . is that a std colour as iv never seen it ? (-P)
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HI a quick hello to everyone just purchased a 3xv 1 being new to two stokes so a lot to learn great info site bound to be a few questions
on my latest bike journey .
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Pics of the 3XV O0
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pic?
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Not sure what I'm doing wrong, don't seem to be able to add a pic of my bike.
Oh, Ooops!
Sorry guys.
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HI a quick hello to everyone just purchased a 3xv 1 being new to two stokes so a lot to learn great info site bound to be a few questions
on my latest bike journey
Hi to all being retired thought time to ride the 3xv1 would not be an issue but the year is disappearing fast so not used as much as hoped.
This winter i would like to carry out a piston/rings top end refresh but no luck finding 56mm std new rebuild kits ,i have seen a company
in Japan tkrj selling std piston kits has anyone had feed back on these kits any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I have bought a kit not used it yet from tkrj.co.jp and it looks like good quality stuff. Buy it now while the yen is weak save some money.
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Thank you for feed back on piston kits didnt realise spares FOR 3XVS were like finding rocking horse poo.
Will keep you posted on progress.
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New member based in Lincolnshire
Currently own a 1991 3XV
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New poster here.
Recently bought a 1kt, engine just in the process of being rebuilt then hopefully she'll be back on the road.
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welcome , nice bike . id be swapping that screen pretty quick O:-)
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I'd not even noticed the screen!
assume that's not cool 😂
Another thing on the shopping list...
Just trying to get the thing running properly and then will start on the bodywork, fairing is a cheap repro and has a few cracks that need plastic welding.
Really want a rear seat cowl as well.
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no dont get me wrong its cool if you like it but i just prefer clear on these 80s / 90s bike era , thing is tho it will actually give better wind flow . seat cover will look good agreed , not sure if there hard to find , atb . (-P)
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New poster here.
Recently bought a 1kt, engine just in the process of being rebuilt then hopefully she'll be back on the road.
Welcome. Is your bike a JDM model? If so, you may have the more prestigious 2XT model - the paint scheme would suggest so. The top fairing appears to be one from the original 1KT model, but the rest seems to be 2XT. If it is a 2XT, the chassis number should be 1KT-09XXXX (where X could be any number).
Export models from 1988 onwards had the same paint scheme as the 2XT (and also the updated rear suspension), but mostly kept other features of earlier models.
Regards,
James
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Yes if it is 2XT the rim are 2.75" front and 3.5" rear.
Left cylinder is stamped 2XT
Easy to check.
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Thanks for the info gents.
Just checked and it was manufactured in 1987, frame no is 1kt 02***"
Japanese import and Speedo is kph.
I'm guessing this is a cheap repro fairing kit, it's defo not great quality.
Once she's up and running I'll start looking at bodywork as much prefer the original livery.
I used to have a TZR back in the mid 90's, unfortunately it got stolen so really pleased to get one again.
This was mine back in the day.
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Thanks for the info gents.
Just checked and it was manufactured in 1987, frame no is 1kt 02***"
Japanese import and Speedo is kph.
I'm guessing this is a cheap repro fairing kit, it's defo not great quality.
Not to worry - it still looks a clean and tidy bike! Let us know what else you find out about it.
Regards,
James
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Hello, thought I was on here to introduce myself to this awesome and very talented helpful bunch of people? Anyway, Denny here and greetings from the mitten. :)
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Hello, thought I was on here to introduce myself to this awesome and very talented helpful bunch of people? Anyway, Denny here and greetings from the mitten. :)
Welcome aboard Denny. There's a multitude of talents and techie people on this forum for you to tap into. Maybe let everyone know what you currently have or your biking history. Happy New Year. (-P)
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Hello everyone! I am new to this forum, I am from Buenos Aires, Argentina. As soon as I can I will be posting replica warning label sets for TZR250 3MA and TZR250 3XV.
I ship worldwide.
Greetings to all,
Tomas :D