Looking at buying 3XV2

[maccas]

Ooo hang on, not sure that is the right connector. Sorry! Worth checking the kojaycat site though. Looks very similar!

Dan

[Warwick]

It is just a standard 2.8mm 3 pin plug, Dan, so the KojayKat one should be fine I reckon (my pic shows the smooth side, the loop is on the other side, and the tang bit is on the relay itself). Doubtless you could find the same japanese style connectors in the States though, Busa. The FB222M relay itself seems to be used on a few other Yams too (and other vehicles too I expect), but I only found one on ebay last night - in Spain. Probably worth a search of US ebay and or other similar sources? 

[busa1300]

Thanks again guys 
I thought about just a connector, but I need the flasher too.....as well as a better battery plug in.
The battery terminal plug I have has been cut into and spliced, so looking for one of those also.
I found a SR400 1JR harness that has the correct flasher terminal with all it's extra wire, a flasher, and a battery plug that look identical to the TZR.
Less than $10 at the moment.....Might go that route and get all the wiring issues solved at once 

[busa1300]

I will have my wiring issues taken care of as soon as I get my next box from Japan.
I got one today with a ton of bolts, a few other 3XV bits, some VJ23 parts, and....a set of SPR cases.
Never know when the worst may happen.....so I grabbed this set pretty cheap......(looks like water got into a cylinder and froze the crank)
Are the SPR cases the same as the SP cases?.....the SPR have the extra oil holes like the SP, are there other differences of any kind?

91 / 3XV 15100-00 are R cases
93 / 3XV 15100-02 are R and RS cases
91 / 3XV 15100-10 are SP cases
95 / 3XV-15100-12 are SPR cases....so there must be some differences....
at least the 00 and the 10 as they were both produced at the same time...
maybe the 12 was the replacement for the 10.....?

Actually I see that the 93 SP has the 12 case as well...

[Steveog]

Busa - I'm speaking from reading the Forum, but I believe the 3xv cases are universal. They are also used on the TZ.

This makes the 3xv an excellent candidate for extreme modifications, using TZ cylinders, heads, etc.

I know that's not your goal, but picking up SP/SPR cases in decent shape was a solid "get".

I have a front and rear cages that will be available this winter. Great shape. Need paint only. PM if they are of interest.

Steve

[busa1300]

Universal as in parts from each can be bolted together in the same way if swapping parts.
As  a TZ crank will fit in a R or an Sp or an SPR....yet all 3 have different part numbers for cranks
There were different part numbers for the same year with cases, I was just wondering if there were more things differing the cases besides the oil holes.

Looking for tell tale signs of originality....as these get to be worth more and more, those small tell tale signs could mean a difference in value.

Cages...like the framework holding the fairing and tail on?
Thanks for the offer 
The ones I have are good, and the bike came with an extra tail framework for footpeg mounts with rear pegs. (but the SP has a different rear cage with no mounting lugs for the pegs which is on the bike)
I could use some better bodywork on the tail.....My only option at the moment is to repaint what I have until I find better original paint parts...

This might be a pointless question I know....but I am very OCD....sorry guys

[busa1300]

Time to dig in on the trans, get the water pump seal and all the other seals replaced. Soda blast the covers and clutch.....and do some general cleaning.

Back at it tomorrow to pull trans and get pump pulled apart. 

[Steveog]

Once inside the tranny, Busa be sure to clean the oil filter. Mine had collected a bug and other crap.

I hear you about alternate part numbers and speak only from what I've read in other reports about the 3xv cases being universal.

There's a project thread by Paul here in which he adds TZ cylinders, pistons, heads and possibly crank to his 3xv. It was a street bike, but made 70hp. There's probably more vital info in that thread than my memory.

Good Luck.

Steve

[busa1300]

 

Trans out, and water pump pulled
Culprit of problem has been removed...
Now time for a good cleaning of everything
Trans looks to be in excellent condition luckily, and all bearings seem very good still.

[mellorp]

Once inside the tranny, Busa be sure to clean the oil filter. Mine had collected a bug and other crap.

I hear you about alternate part numbers and speak only from what I've read in other reports about the 3xv cases being universal.

There's a project thread by Paul here in which he adds TZ cylinders, pistons, heads and possibly crank to his 3xv. It was a street bike, but made 70hp. There's probably more vital info in that thread than my memory.

Good Luck.

Steve

I now own that bike :-)

[Steveog]

HA. You own them all, Phil. Seriously, are the 3xv cases universal to all models and also TZ's. Of course, the SP crank drops into the 3xv1. Mine works and gives great confidence.

Busa - Pattern seals can be used in most applications. Probably available locally at a bearing company. That water pump seal though is better acquired through Yamaha. Ybk advised me, "that the oe Yamaseal has an additional lip and made specifically for the 3xv." I was able to get mine through my local Yamadealer. Paid retail, but shipping was free. Let me know if I can help.

Steve

[ybk]

Soda blast the covers and clutch.....and do some general cleaning.

Got myself a soda blast setup now as well so lining up some parts to do. When you get round to it do some before/afters 

[busa1300]

HA. You own them all, Phil. Seriously, are the 3xv cases universal to all models and also TZ's. Of course, the SP crank drops into the 3xv1. Mine works and gives great confidence.

Busa - Pattern seals can be used in most applications. Probably available locally at a bearing company. That water pump seal though is better acquired through Yamaha. Ybk advised me, "that the oe Yamaseal has an additional lip and made specifically for the 3xv." I was able to get mine through my local Yamadealer. Paid retail, but shipping was free. Let me know if I can help.

Steve

Thanks Steve, but I already have all the seals/o-rings and gaskets for this particular project.....although I forgot the seal for kick start.
Going to cross part number and see if a Yamaha sold in the USA has the same number.



As far as TZ parts go.....I am going to work on getting a complete bike instead....

Soda blast the covers and clutch.....and do some general cleaning.

Got myself a soda blast setup now as well so lining up some parts to do. When you get round to it do some before/afters 

I have some of past projects.....was going to blast my clutch and cover today but my hose is plugged solid from old soda....

[ybk]

That's satisfying Blasting is really the only way to get this stuff clean. Soda gives a nice finish.

[busa1300]

My seal for the kick start shaft should be here by Tuesday.
So I'm making sure everything else is ready to go when I get the seal.

Waterpump shaft had corrosion on the seal area, which I am guessing is what ate the seal up.
After cleaning the shaft best I could....it still looked bad, so luckily the SPR crankcase I got had the waterpump still in it.
Pulled that one out, and it was in much better shape, so i cleaned it up and used it instead.

Everything is as clean as it is going to get this round of rejuvenation.
Pulled heads and cylinders looked good still, so i put new seals in and bolted them back up.
Also found my powervalve cable was sitting cocked in its hole, and wore a mark in it.
Luck found me again, as I had a spare powervalve motor with the cables still on it for a quick replacement.

Hopefully Tuesday or Wednesday, I can finally take it on a good run and see how well it works .