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Looking at buying 3XV2

Started by busa1300, June 18, 2019, 02:01:17 AM

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41juergen

The problem is that in (new) stock conditions the PV bushings are a bit to far off (is that a good wording?  :-\). You can improve the situation when having the barrels pulled with cuting off approx 0.2mm from the threads of each side...

ybk

#76
Yeah as juergen said they all do that. There is end to end float that cause quite a rattle, more so on the bottom cylinder. I have added shims inside the end caps which I think helps. New seals help a little bit as well.

busa1300

#77
thanks  (-P)
That is good to know it is somewhat normal and my bike doesn't have another expensive issue.

Have a parts list made up for Megazip, to get my trans pulled and all new seals/gaskets to get waterpump seal changed.
Head seals also will be ordered so I can pull heads first and see what the cylinders look like.
If all is well, I will pull the trans to get at the waterpump shaft and seal....and then try a test ride again....with correct air box filters this time.
If there is a problem, then I'll bolt heads back on and make another parts list for my Christmas present to myself. (pistons/rings/crank...)

On another note....
My flasher is for 3 prong wiring...but all the flashers I see available for a TZR is only 2 prong....?
Parts book shows SP has it's own number for a flasher....but pictures still look like only 2 prong .....
Had a LED flasher  that blinked about 100 times a second....another item in the trash...
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
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KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

Steveog

Busa - Shipping expense from Japan is just plain absurd. Before you make an order to Megazip, check with your local Yamaha dealer, first. Take those part numbers and let them check their warehouses. You won't pay any shipping and the price per part is usually close to Megazip. No, their computers won't show TZR parts, but I've had a 65% success rate with my local parts guys.

Good Luck.

Steve
Brief, fleeting Glory. Which of itself cannot last, but while it does is the best game of all.

busa1300

Quote from: Steveog on September 21, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
Busa - Shipping expense from Japan is just plain absurd. Before you make an order to Megazip, check with your local Yamaha dealer, first. Take those part numbers and let them check their warehouses. You won't pay any shipping and the price per part is usually close to Megazip. No, their computers won't show TZR parts, but I've had a 65% success rate with my local parts guys.

Good Luck.

Steve

That is always the first thing I attempt..... (-P)
I cross referenced part numbers, and there were parts I could not get here in the states that I wanted to change.
So, since I had to get a few parts from Japan, I figured I would get them all at the same time from the same place for the same amount of shipping, as just a couple small items.
Getting parts through dealers here I still end up paying taxes....
Plus they are all in stock with Megazip, where a few parts were not in stock at just one place, with the other options I looked at.
I figured if I have to pull the trans/clutch, I might as well do the entire trans/clutch up right, and not have that to worry about again  (-P)

My local Yamaha dealer has no concept of parts discounts, in order to use them $$$

After my RZV, this will still be way cheaper in the end no matter how I get everything I need.

Steve, I know you use your bike only for the track, but does your wiring harness still have the turn signal flasher connection?
If so can you tell me if it is 2 or 3 prong, and what the color of the wiring is
Thanks in advance  (-P).....Glad you got your flange welded, I was thinking there had to be a fab shop/machine shop/body shop that could weld close (-P)
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

ybk


Steveog

Yes, Busa. If your paying the same shipping costs for all your parts, then getting everything you need from MZ makes sense. I know you been around the block a few times with refurbs. Certainly more than I have, just know what I've been through. Trying to help. Definitely not questioning your thinking.

My Yamaparts Guy is an Ex-TZ Racer and knows a few tricks to tap the Japanese warehouses, but MZ seems to have some stuff he can't get.

Glad ybk jumped in on your question. I have stripped a lot of my loom, but some of it is still intact. I have some connectors left over.

I knew I could get the flange welded up, it was the "On-call", same day, Saturday service with a guru that seemed supernatural.

Thanks

Steve
Brief, fleeting Glory. Which of itself cannot last, but while it does is the best game of all.

busa1300

Thanks for your input guys.
I've been around the block, but TZR's are new to me so will take in all the info I can.
Got a set of lower mileage rotors swapped on it, and a new battery....which will stay in the box until I open up the trans.
Looks more complete day by day....This turn signal flasher issue has me stumped at the moment, as the wiring on the bike looks totally factory with this 3 prong plug.....but no correct flasher to get it all working  :-\

Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

ybk

The flasher I posted was from my spr, just checked the early rs and it has the same connector but it has a 3rd black wire. The flasher unit is also slightly larger and it accomodates the 3rd wire from the connector (3 pins)

busa1300

Quote from: ybk on September 23, 2019, 03:12:15 AM
The flasher I posted was from my spr, just checked the early rs and it has the same connector but it has a 3rd black wire. The flasher unit is also slightly larger and it accomodates the 3rd wire from the connector (3 pins)

Thanks  (-P)

I have
Brown
Brown/white stripe
Black
Wires....
Wonder if someone possibly changed the plug end with different type of blades/connector....
My wire looks shorter than the pic you showed of your SPR.
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

Warwick

Did you say that the bike came with some LED flashers fitted? If so, I'd imagine that the flasher unit has been changed to one better suited to the led flashers? I'm working on a 92 SP myself at the moment, would you like me to get you some details/pics of the stock flasher unit? Pretty sure it's a common unit so should be easy enough to source a good used spare.  (-P)
Still Smoking...

busa1300

Yes if you could that would be very helpful, as the shop manual and parts manual pics are not that great.
That way I will be sure it's going together as original  (-P)
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

Warwick

Still Smoking...

busa1300

 (-P) Thats what I need
Time to search for cheap Yamaha wiring harness to chop up for that plug....Or find a new copy of same design.

Thanks, for the pics  :)
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

maccas

No need to chop up! Connector available here:

https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Products/%22ML-3%20Way%20Black%20Connector%22

You may even find the same connector in the US somewhere using this link as a guide.

Dan