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Looking at buying 3XV2

Started by busa1300, June 18, 2019, 02:01:17 AM

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busa1300

Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

yanw


Steveog

Brief, fleeting Glory. Which of itself cannot last, but while it does is the best game of all.

thump566

Excellent, another one back on the asphalt and avoids the breakers yard  (-P)
Forever a student attempting to learn from the Mentors.

busa1300

Thanks guys  (-P)
It went easier than I thought this time with the title.....they changed the rules a little bit and has cut down on some of the paperwork.

More good news today when I got a box with a like new clutch cable, SPR airboxes, and SR400 wiring harness....so I can now get my battery hooked up as original, and have working turn signal as original.
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

busa1300

Got all my wiring fixed up, and now have proper working signals as the factory originally designed.
Some better bodywork on the way, to get the tail looking like it should....

The next big headache will be getting these unrestricting parts to work together with the SP motor.....

Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

busa1300

Snow on the ground for the past week here....not much motivation or activity.
I did get a TZ cap for my rear brake reservoir though....should help it go a little faster  ;)
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

ybk

Nice progress, satisfying having all the parts come in at a steady pace. Was wondering what you'll do with your existing tail piece, the colouring looked a little off.

Quote from: busa1300 on November 10, 2019, 02:22:06 AM
The next big headache will be getting these unrestricting parts to work together with the SP motor.....

I'm considering hooking up a dual CDI setup. The stock CDI will do pretty much everything including the solenoid 2T pump and air jets, the sugo box will just do the ignition. Probably less incentive for you with a mechanical oil pump though.

The Japanese dudes have done this :


busa1300

I have been digging around in various Japanese blogs, with guys who have 3XV's that are looking for more HP.
But have not found any secrets yet on my particular combination of bike and parts yet.
I think I would go with a Zeel before I would try using two Ignition boxes though....It will be a challenge to get it running good enough to get it on a dyno for better direction, no matter what route I take.
Smoking for over 40 years.
TZR250SP...3XV2
RZ350-RZV500R where it started and why
RGV250 VJ21L-VJ22FL-VJ22N-VJ23T MotoGP street fun
RS250 Track day
KD80 cherry popper - JR50 for the kids - and a TM400 powered TS for laughs

vinny

#129
The zeel is the only way to go on ignitions in my opinion.  (-P)
3xv racebike, 4dp racebike,
3xv roadbike, zxr 636,tdr125, crm 250, vtr 250,

Warwick

#130
The dual ignition set up would only really be relevant if you were using the later solenoid controlled oil pump and wanted to keep that set up rather than running pre- mix or the early cable controlled pump.

IE: it's of no real relevance on a 3XV2 as that has the cable operated pump.
Still Smoking...

ybk

#131
My thinking was to let the stock CDI keep operating the air solenoids including the oil solenoids. That way you have essentially a stock bike but with the SUGO advance curve. With the Zeel you lose the air jets, same as with running just the Sugo cdi.

I'm probably missing something..

mellorp

Quote from: ybk on November 20, 2019, 09:21:10 PM
.....With the Zeel you lose the air jets as well same as with Sugo cdi.

..

Are you sure ??? I thought the zeeltronic controlled the air solenoid and also has the capability to control the (electronic) power jet.
Uncle (Reverend) Phil !!!

yanw

The powercurves have been mapped but I'm not sure if the oil solenoids have been mapped. If we could get those decoded then then perhaps the Zeal could run those as well. I'm happy to lend/post my 3xv-60 CDI off as long as I get it back by late spring.

mellorp

Oil solenoids no control from the zeeltronic. The oil solenoid default position (open) means more oil than necessary at lower revs. Solution keep it at WOT :-)

Sorry I might have chipped in here with a random unwanted comment about oil/air solenoids and power jets.

Uncle (Reverend) Phil !!!